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Old May 13th, 2009 May 13, 2009 9:08:41 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Roland GX-24 Experts? Need Some Advice.

I was originally looking at the Versacamm to print Vinyl heat transfers for shirts and cut them, but it is out of my price range right now. I was wondering if this same thing can be done with the GX-24 along with a separate printer? If this can be done, can somebody suggest a good transfer paper and printer? Also, is the quality very good? Please help, as I need to get one of these soon if it can be done. Thank you very much for the help everyone.
 
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Default Re: Roland GX-24 Experts? Need Some Advice.

here is a link to a youtube video produced by josh at imprintables warehouse:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...&v=FDdY4a9ChKc

there are more videos along with that that demonstrate what the gx-24 w/optic eye registration can do with a stand-alone desktop printer. although the gx can't do what the versacamm does i'm very happy with mine and where i bought it (imprintables).

the feel of vinyl and heat transfers (for dark) cannot compare to screenprinted plastisol transfers. there are products out there that come close.

maybe other people here can talk more to the value (cost effectiveness) in each method.
 
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here is a link to a youtube video produced by josh at imprintables warehouse:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...&v=FDdY4a9ChKc

there are more videos along with that that demonstrate what the gx-24 w/optic eye registration can do with a stand-alone desktop printer. although the gx can't do what the versacamm does i'm very happy with mine and where i bought it (imprintables).

the feel of vinyl and heat transfers (for dark) cannot compare to screenprinted plastisol transfers. there are products out there that come close.

maybe other people here can talk more to the value (cost effectiveness) in each method.
Hey thanks a ton for the response. I've seen that video, and the only thing is that the Superman symbol doesn't look like that great of quality to me. I'm not concerned about the "feel" on the garment as much as I am on how vibrant the vinyl looks on a dark garment and it's washability. I'm also averaging about 100 shirts a day, so I don't know how quick this process can go. Also, I don't know what kind of vinyl to use for transfers, and a nice quality printer for a good price. Thanks for the response.
 
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Default Re: Roland GX-24 Experts? Need Some Advice.

Well then that would also depend on the paper..as some opaque paper the colors just don't seem as vibrant as others.
 
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Default Re: Roland GX-24 Experts? Need Some Advice.

I had researched this for quite some time now. And the only solution I found to print full color graphics that are more durable than transfers is the Epson Stylus Pro printer series. The folks at Beacon graphics have "started packages" with reasonable prices. But before you buy anything that is in the thousands of dollars I will recommend you to ask for a sample. This helped me to come to a decision on whether it was suitable for my business or not. Good Luck! www.beacongraphics.com/epson.html
 
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Default Re: Roland GX-24 Experts? Need Some Advice.

Great info. Thanks a ton all.

Does anyone have any pictures of shirts that they've done with either the versacamm or the GX 24? I can't find pictures on the web.
 
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Default Re: Roland GX-24 Experts? Need Some Advice.

Is there a such thing as a vinyl that can be printed on, heat pressed to shirts, but doesn't have a "thick" feel to it? I'm thinking of getting one of these printers/cutters, but I don't want shirts to look cheap.
 
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Is there a such thing as a vinyl that can be printed on, heat pressed to shirts, but doesn't have a "thick" feel to it? I'm thinking of getting one of these printers/cutters, but I don't want shirts to look cheap.
Yes, for light garments. I use Jet-Pro SofStretch paper and LOVE it. Almost no "feel", great quality, great washability. I get mine at Heat Transfer Paper, Inkjet heat transfer paper & Dark Transfer Paper at TShirt Supplies. It's expensive stuff though, but I think most papers are.

For darks, I have no idea - haven't experimented with that yet.
 
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Default Re: Roland GX-24 Experts? Need Some Advice.

the jetpro soft stretch is a inkjet transfer paper, not vinyl. the vinyl you cut with a gx-24 comes on a roll in many colors (foils, metallics also available) and USUALLY not purchased for the purpose of being printed on. i'm sure there is a process for which you could print on such a product though i'm not sure (think it's called solvent printing and involves chemicals, as the name suggests).

if you are doing hundreds of shirts in more than one color you should really look at either sending your files out to get plastisol transfers and heat pressing them yourself OR outsourcing the job to a screenprinter in your area. the gx-24 is an awesome machine but is primarily used for one to two color jobs at low volume. the vinyl is first cut, then you have to weed the design (pull off excess vinyl), then heat press it onto your garment. i personally wouldn't do a one color job which the quantity of shirts is more than 25 on the gx. i'd send for plastisol.

this link might give you some more advice:

What is the Quality of Different T-Shirt Printing Methods? A list in general order.
 
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Hey thanks a ton for the response. I've seen that video, and the only thing is that the Superman symbol doesn't look like that great of quality to me. I'm not concerned about the "feel" on the garment as much as I am on how vibrant the vinyl looks on a dark garment and it's washability. I'm also averaging about 100 shirts a day, so I don't know how quick this process can go. Also, I don't know what kind of vinyl to use for transfers, and a nice quality printer for a good price. Thanks for the response.
I think if you are averaging 500 shirts a week you should be looking at outsourcing to a sceen printer.
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Default Re: Roland GX-24 Experts? Need Some Advice.

I'm torn between the Versacamm and the GX 24. If I go with the Gx 24, I'll need a small but good quality vinyl printer. Can anyone suggest a nice quality and priced vinyl printer? Also, on the GX 24, could I feed like a 5 foot long piece of vinyl into it and have it cut out many different designs in that 5 foot section. Or does the GX 24 only take small sheets? Thanks again for the help everyone.
 
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Default Re: Roland GX-24 Experts? Need Some Advice.

I can't help with the vinyl printing (I gave mis-information above about the transfers) but I do know that the GX-24 takes up to 27.5" wide rolls by basically unlimited length - you can load a roll and cut as long as your graphic is.
 
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I just got a new catalog from Beacon Graphics, the Canon printer they have is intriguing....

Canon ImagePROGRAF IPF5100 Printers from Beacon Graphics, LLC
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I just got a new catalog from Beacon Graphics, the Canon printer they have is intriguing....

Canon ImagePROGRAF IPF5100 Printers from Beacon Graphics, LLC

Ha! I was just looking at that! Will that type of printer take vinyl rolls though?
 
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Also, with shirt vinyl printing, does it have to be a solvent printer, or special ink type printer?
 
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