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Old December 20th, 2008 Dec 20, 2008 7:18:53 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Printing "Fat Head " Type Vinyl Tips?

We just installed our new SP 540 Roland.
We want to print Fat Head Type Vinyl and we would like to hear some "Do's And Don't".

I am told we need to keep the printing inside the edge 1/4" leaving a white border that I don't like.
Is the true?

Install tips ? Thanks in advance.
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Default Re: Printing "Fat Head " Type Vinyl Tips?

Cut off the edge when it's all the way dry. That's what I do.
You have to keep the edge because the print heads won't print outside of the pinch rollers.
 
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Default Re: Printing "Fat Head " Type Vinyl Tips?

The 540 should pick up the paper size from the pinch roller position, therefore it does need a margin.
The vinyl can wander so a margin is a good idea.
The printer is pretty good but remember to do the weekly maintenance.
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Default Re: Printing "Fat Head " Type Vinyl Tips?

How did you guys know I wanted to do fatheads? The cutter will cut this material right? Who sells the material?
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Default Re: Printing "Fat Head " Type Vinyl Tips?

Contact your vinyl supplier, it's just a low tack vinyl. And yes, your cutter will cut this material just fine.
 
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Default Re: Printing "Fat Head " Type Vinyl Tips?

The vinyl prints and cut fantastic. How long does it take to be fully cure? Will the ink in the sp540 stand up to wear and tear? Do I need the border / 1/4" of vinyl or can I bleed the edge?

How much presure is needed to apply to painted dry wall?
 
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Default Re: Printing "Fat Head " Type Vinyl Tips?

You can conture cut right up to the edge, I always put a bleed on the edge then cut over it. The ink is great. I have some things outside for about 3 years now and they look as good today as they did the day they were made. You have bought a great printer. I've been using my sp-300 for years and still love it.
Remember, do maintenance often, primarily watch for lint build-up on the print heads. If it gets to long, they will touch the media and give you streaks. This builds up because of dust. It is a common thing.
 
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Default Re: Printing "Fat Head " Type Vinyl Tips?

the reason for the white margin is primarily due to edge curl. to avoid this you can simply let the print outgas for at least overnight prior to contour cutting. I've done dozens of these and I've tried it all! If you don't allow outgas time you will get an edge curl (on most but not all materials). However leaving the margin or waiting to contour cut solves the problem.

I just installed one of these about an hour ago in fact!
 
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the reason for the white margin is primarily due to edge curl. to avoid this you can simply let the print outgas for at least overnight prior to contour cutting. I've done dozens of these and I've tried it all! If you don't allow outgas time you will get an edge curl (on most but not all materials). However leaving the margin or waiting to contour cut solves the problem.

I just installed one of these about an hour ago in fact!
Thank you so much !
 
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Default Re: Printing "Fat Head " Type Vinyl Tips?

Who do you market your fathead type vinyl to? I was thinking about doing the same thing for local schools using their masot that kids could put on their bedroom walls. Do you think that's a workable idea?
 
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Default Re: Printing "Fat Head " Type Vinyl Tips?

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Who do you market your fathead type vinyl to? I was thinking about doing the same thing for local schools using their masot that kids could put on their bedroom walls. Do you think that's a workable idea?

Yes I think that is a great idea. We are selling to ball teams.
Best of luck and Merry Christmas.
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the reason for the white margin is primarily due to edge curl. to avoid this you can simply let the print outgas for at least overnight prior to contour cutting. I've done dozens of these and I've tried it all! If you don't allow outgas time you will get an edge curl (on most but not all materials). However leaving the margin or waiting to contour cut solves the problem.

I just installed one of these about an hour ago in fact!

How much time for the outgasing?
 
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Default Re: Printing "Fat Head " Type Vinyl Tips?

I recommend at least overnight (say 12 hours) less than that and you may have problems.
 
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Default Re: Printing "Fat Head " Type Vinyl Tips?

OK....this type of media has come along ways since it was first being used.....basically the type of media that was used up to this point was actually for a different application...I just met last month with my Avery rep and the MPI 2601 is the bomb material for doing fatheads......this stuff is much better than things we've used in the past...it does not need a bleed....it does not curl even on the heaviest ink deposits...it ROCKS !!!...and it comes in 54" wide rolls....I get mine from Denco Sales....good luck !!!
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Default Re: Printing "Fat Head " Type Vinyl Tips?

This is probably going to sound stupid for you experienced people but how do you get the contour cut around a bitmap say of a kid playing ball (jpg) I use corel but do not know much when it comes to drawing around an image, so if you have any great advice I would love to hear it. Forgive me for not knowing but I am not a graphics person at all and try to do everything at the shop myself
 
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