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Old December 12th, 2008 Dec 12, 2008 10:46:18 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Cutter/Printer All-In-One

So I was looking at the Roland VersaCAMM SP-300, what a machine.

But isn't it possible to do the same, much cheaper, with a cheap inkjet printer and a Roland? Can't you just print on white Vinyl (a la Epson 1400), then have the Roland cut it?
 
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Yes you can as long as you have a wide format printer you can print the vinyl first and then contour cut on the cutter.
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Default Re: Cutter/Printer All-In-One

I was not 100% sure you can print on Vinyl. You learn something new every day. So why don't folks print complex logo's etc on Vinyl, have the cutter cut it and then heat press it? Surely it is better than JPSS etc?

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There are people that do that The vinyl does have a heavier hand to it, so that is probably one of the reasons. You can find printable vinyl at imprintables and other vinyl suppliers. You do need to make sure that your printer prints the right kind of ink though too. I believe you need an Eco solvent ink printer to do it.
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The only problem I can see, is lining up the printed image with the cutter. But this seems a really cool method. You get the benefit of Vinyl and Inkjet all in one without having a $10k machine.

This is what I watched thinking about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cBiPcuud08
 
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Here is an older post where others discuss doing this https://www.t-shirtforums.com/vinyl-...rs/t12936.html. It seems there might be a vinyl that would work with inkjet. That post describes it pretty good.

On the cutter as long as you use registration marks, it will contour cut your same image you printed So it should not be a problem lining it up.
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So other than the ColorJet III method, you need an Eco Solvent printer and I am guessing there is no desktop Eco Solvent printer on the market.
 
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That is probably why people buy the versacamm No seriously, I dont know the answer to that one I think by the time you purchase the proper printer, ink system, and cutter, you might be close to what you would pay for a used versacamm. Keep me updated on what you find out, now that you have a step in the right direction to research Maybe even check on used machines and see if you can come close. By the way the versacamm is one of my two dream machines I want, the other is a speed treater for my dtg. So if Santa is reading this................. haha.
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Hehe. That Versacamm is lovely. I want one! But would you choose a DGT over a Versacamm?
 
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Well I would only because I dont like the feel of the vinyl for printed materials. I think both have their bennifits. I have a graphtec cutter that allows me to do metalics, glitter and all kinds of other cool stuff that I cannot print. But my dtg allows me to have a really soft hand on my prints, due to the water based inks. On light color shirts I cannot even feel the ink, and on darks its a pretty light feel.

I like the idea of the versacamm for being able to print large cool looking banners, stickers and stuff like that. I dont think I would use the versacamm for doing t-shirts though, as I have a dtg If I didnt have a dtg I might use it for that though.
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I would imagine the ink costs of the Versacamm are insane though! But you are very lucky to own a DGT. One day I hope to follow in your footsteps. Hehe.
 
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Some cutters have reg. mark detectors. On a normal inkjet printer, with the software put reg marks on the design. Print the design. Put in the cutter. The cutter will look for the marks and cut based on its placement.
 
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