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Cutting Poly Twill with the Roland GX-24



 
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Old July 17th, 2008 Jul 17, 2008 5:47:55 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I am new to the forum and I have run into a problem I can figure out. I am also new to cutting twill on my Roland GX-24. I use it all the time for vinyl but didn't know it would (???) cut twill until recent readings.

I purchased the 45 and 60 degree angle blades to cut my poly twill with the Roland cutter and I am have trouble with the twill bunching up when it moves backward to finish the letter?

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Slow it down to around 10.... I use a 60 degree for cutting twill letters.
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Ok - Now I really feel stupid...I didn't know you could slow down the speed.

Do you know how to do this?

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I figured out how to slow down the speed but still bunching up. I think it has something to do with the force. It appears the fabric is trying to advance while the area at the sight of the pen stay in position, thus bunching up. However, when I reduce the pen force it does not seem to cut the poly twill all the way through and as a matter of fact only leave slight cut outlines. This will not work. I will still have to cut manually.

What am I doing wrong??? Someone please help!

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Default Re: Cutting Poly Twill with the Roland GX-24

I've been cutting twill with this machine, so far, no problem. Are you using roll good twill or by the yard twill and putting it on a mask carrier? If you're using a carrier, make sure it is press down firmly on the carrier (no bubbles), this shouldn't be problem on the roll goods. Make sure the blade is still good, if you have a new one, try using it then experiment with the speed and force, there's a button on your machine called "test" (upper left corner), once you have the twill setup on the machine, press and hold for about 2 to 3 seconds then the machine will automatically do a small test of cutting (small circle and square), once done, check if the cut is good, if not, continue adjusting the force, I wouldn't go faster than 30 with the speed. Hope this help.
 
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Good point, are you using fabric and applying a carrier to it or are you using twill that already has a pressure sensitive adhesive (PSA) backing?

When I first got my cutter, I ordered some twill from Stahls and didn't realize that I needed to order the twill with the PSA instead of plain twill. Now I have a couple of yards of twill with no backing sitting here until I get time to try it with a carrier...
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Default Re: Cutting Poly Twill with the Roland GX-24

You make a good point here Ted...

Good to know this about the Stahls Twill product.

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Good to know this about the Stahls Twill product.
Just wanted to make sure, the error was on my part, not Stahls... They do have twill with the PSA backing, I simply ordered the wrong item.
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Default Re: Cutting Poly Twill with the Roland GX-24

The blade is new and as a matter of fact I purchased the 45 degree and the 5 pk of the 60 degree to see if there was any difference when I started this project. I have played with the force and speed but I am still experiencing problems so maybe it is the twill. I purchased the MH510TWI003 "Heat Seal 51" Poly-Twill" and was told by Stahls that it is the correct twill. I think my next step is to contact Stahl's Tech Support Department to see what they say. The salesman on the phone sounds knowledgeable but????

I will keep you posted on the outcome in the event someone else may have trouble as well.

Thank you all so much.

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I'm pretty sure that's the same stuff I ordered... if so, it won't work unless you use a pressure sensitive adhesive carrier underneath the fabric to hold it in place.
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Default Re: Cutting Poly Twill with the Roland GX-24

For cutting Pressure Sensitive Twill with the Roland GX-24 Cutter be sure the blade (either 45 or 60 degree ) is only exposed about 2mm. Set the force to around 150 and then do a test cut. When you do a test cut the cutter will cut a circle and a square. If you can weed out the circle and leave the square then your cutting will be ok. One of the biggest mistakes people have is too much blade exposure. I have cut hundreds of pieces of twill without any issues. If you are going to cut a lot of twill you might want to invest in a carbide blade.
 
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Default Re: Cutting Poly Twill with the Roland GX-24

Thank you for your help. I finally found that I did NOT have the correct twill for my cutter. It did not have the film underneath (was not pressure sensitive) and once we received the correct twill...THIS IS AWESOME!!!! Cuts great and I am so thrilled.

This forum has been as great experience and I just am so thrilled to have found it as well. Thanks to everyone who took time to help me.

One step forward and I am sure I will have more questions related to our embroidery and screenprinting business in the future.

Again, Thank you all VERY MUCH!

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Yes this stuff is not what I need. I found that I did not have the Pressure Sensitive twill. I don't know what a "pressure sensitive adhesive carrier" is. I now have twill that I can't use because would only take back twill unless is was complete roll.
 
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