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Old July 3rd, 2008 Jul 3, 2008 11:22:30 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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hi all-

been monitoring this forum for a while now and have been wondering............is there any way to precisely register different layers on top of each other when doing multi-color designs in cut vinyl on shirts?

i don't have a cutter yet but this has been buggin me. i understand that after heat pressing vinyl onto a shirt it shrinks a little, so any use of registration marks goes out the window. but wouldn't the same brand of vinyl shrink the same amount so there should be some way to figure out a registering principle?

tell me you guys just eyeball your designs. WHAT!!!
 
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Yup good ole eyeball method is really the only way. It's actually pretty easy once you do a few of them. I don't ever use the butt up method as it will leave a small gap once the vinyl shrinks, I simply overlap the vinyl on top of each other.

I don't like doing more the 2 layers as it gets fairly thick.
 
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Yup good ole eyeball method is really the only way. It's actually pretty easy once you do a few of them. I don't ever use the butt up method as it will leave a small gap once the vinyl shrinks, I simply overlap the vinyl on top of each other.

I don't like doing more the 2 layers as it gets fairly thick.
hi david, how far do you overlap?
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Sorry Earl, overlap wasn't the correct word. I simply layer them. Example the pic below, I simply made a solid outline in black, then apllied the white over top of it so I have a black outline and "baseball" in black shows through the white as I reverse weeded it. Same with the actual baseball and number.
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Sorry Earl, overlap wasn't the correct word. I simply layer them. Example the pic below, I simply made a solid outline in black, then apllied the white over top of it so I have a black outline and "baseball" in black shows through the white as I reverse weeded it. Same with the actual baseball and number.
o.k. but if the first layer has been applied with heat and it has shrunk wouldn't the second layer (which was made in concert with the first) be off when eyeballing it?
 
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No it barely shrinks........You don't even notice it unless you are trying the "butt together" method.
 
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can't wait to try it! by the way david your design looks pro.
 
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can't wait to try it! have to take my contacts out though....by the way, { david } your design looks pro. this is the most useful/imformative web thing i've ever been a part of. thanks again. -peace
 
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Great design, I posted a few weeks ago on how to do 2 color designs like this. I have a GX 24 with cutstudio and Corel 12, after several attempts and some advise I still can not get it to work. Of course I'm new to this, I've mastered one color but really really need to figure out this 2 color thing. If any one has step by step instructions for a blonde please let me know. I usually can figure out anything but this is just confusing me. Also does anyone know where I can get art for my plotter for sports, wildlife that can be cut for t-shirts and window stickers without spending 100s of dollars. I know I can count on all you pros out there. Thanks
 
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Melinda in Corel Draw just use the contour to make an outline then in your cutter software cut each color individually.

As for the art I normally just google what I am looking for and trace it. The pic I posted is just text using ballpark font and a free tail from Welcome to AdvancedArtist.com FREE Corel DRAW tutorial training and downloads
 
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Thanks for the info, I will try this and see if I can get it to work, I've tried everything else. I will let you know how it goes.
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Melinda,
Once you send the design into CutStudio simply click on all the inside of the design and delete it leaving only the main outline of the design. This will be your bottom layer. Next hit the undo button until your design is back in its original form and select, the delete, the main outline that you left intact during the first part. This will give you the overlay (2nd layer) that you can apply over the top of the bottom layer. The result you would get is what David's pic in post #4 shows. Hope this helps.
 
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Once you send the design into CutStudio simply click on all the inside of the design and delete it leaving only the main outline of the design. This will be your bottom layer. Next hit the undo button until your design is back in its original form and select, the delete, the main outline that you left intact during the first part. This will give you the overlay (2nd layer) that you can apply over the top of the bottom layer. The result you would get is what David's pic in post #4 shows. Hope this helps.
Thanks, I will try that if I ever get time to practice, this forum is so much help, I really appreciate everyones imput. I will let you know how it goes. Thanks again.
 
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Melinda, if you want to see how to use the contour function in Corel, take a look at the videos at advancedartist.com. I bought the package of tutorials simply because I learned so much watching the free videos that I felt I needed to give something back. I haven't had time to watch all the videos yet but there is some great tips there...
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Melinda, if you want to see how to use the contour function in Corel, take a look at the videos at advancedartist.com. I bought the package of tutorials simply because I learned so much watching the free videos that I felt I needed to give something back. I haven't had time to watch all the videos yet but there is some great tips there...
Thanks I will look at that tomorrow.
 
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