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Old July 22nd, 2008 Jul 22, 2008 1:53:09 PM -   #16 (permalink)
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Default Re: How to layer vinyl on shirts

Hi all,

I'm real new to this, but I was wondering the same thing. So let me see if I got this right. There are 2 methods:
(For example, the number 2 with an outline for a jersey)

1)
a)Cut a 2 out and then another larger 2.
b)Tack the larger one down in place and then place the smaller one over it

Or

2)Cut a 2 out and then another larger 2(outline).
3)Press the smaller 2 and the larger 2 on the shirt together. One actually sits within the other one and it doesn't sit on top of it.


Is this correct, or am I waaayyyy off base?
 
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Old July 22nd, 2008 Jul 22, 2008 3:09:06 PM -   #17 (permalink)
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Default Re: How to layer vinyl on shirts

That is correct. Remember though the vinyl will shrink a tad bit if you're planning on doing it with just an outline. Also you don't "just make a bigger '2'".

Your designing software should have a outline tool or in Corel Draw contour, that lets you make an outline around your object.
 
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Old July 22nd, 2008 Jul 22, 2008 9:47:09 PM -   #18 (permalink)
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I am having difficulty in CutStudio aligning my image, so that I can cut it out so that it overlaps evenly.
 
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Old July 22nd, 2008 Jul 22, 2008 9:52:14 PM -   #19 (permalink)
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This helps, but however whenever i select "Object" then Image Outline from the dropdown menu. "image outline" is will not allow me to select it as an option. what might I be doing in err??
 
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I've tried the overlap and it helps, but my problem is primarily with cursive text which one of my customers uses as part of their logo. Making the inside color on the letters slightly larger, allowing a bit of overlap only helps a bit. It seems the shrinkage goes in both directions, so when I overlap the second color the letters are significantly off horizontally. Losing my mind here and I might need to risk a divorce and get the Versacamm. BTW, those who own a Versacamm, or do large size vinyls that don't like the feel (sweating behind or heaviness) I'm working on a perforation solution that came to me at an apparel seminar. I have the benefit of having a waterjet in my shop and I'm working on fabrication of a small perforator that would make tiny holes in the design to let it breath. I'll keep everyone posted when and if it works.
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Old July 23rd, 2008 Jul 23, 2008 5:52:01 PM -   #21 (permalink)
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Question Re: How to layer vinyl on shirts

another option is to leave a gap between colors if this will work with your design, mant vector images are created with these gaps or perhaps you can adjust your image so as to do this.
 
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another option is to leave a gap between colors if this will work with your design, mant vector images are created with these gaps or perhaps you can adjust your image so as to do this.
I generally do that, however in script letters breaking them apart will not work. If the customer wants a white outline around blue letters breaking them up to add spacing doesn't meet the customer's requirements.
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Old July 25th, 2008 Jul 25, 2008 3:25:40 PM -   #23 (permalink)
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Default Re: How to layer vinyl on shirts

Fair warning I'm totally new to this, but I had the same question. I can't find the video yet that I ran across, but it showed layering the vinyl in reverse on application tape before applying it. It used printed markers in the corners to line up each layer. Please chime in and correct me if I'm totally clueless.

Here is a video of something similar to the process, but its not layed up in reverse order.

YouTube - How To Layer 4 Color Vinyl Decals
 
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Default Re: How to layer vinyl on shirts

That video is for sign vinyl not t-shirt vinyl.
 
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Default Re: How to layer vinyl on shirts

So, are you saying you can't lay up the vinyl in reverse order like this and apply it?

The similar video that I can't find now was for a shirt. It wasn't quite the same, but was similar. Instead of having the vinyl completely overlap, it was just slight overlap (like .25) layed up in reverse order.
 
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Yes you can have t-shirt vinyl layered, but you don't do it like that video showed. First there's no registration marks and basically what you do is lay the bottom layer, press it for approx 8 seconds then lay then next layer and press. Lining up by just using your eyes, no registration marks.
 
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Layering vinyl is awesome and the Eco Film product from Imprintables is a good product to use . I'm sure flowerboxx will agree. .... JB
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JB you drunk? For layering I'd say Easyweed is the thinnest material, but I still prefer Multicut from www.jotopaper.com because it comes in 20" width and is sooooo easy to work with.

BTW, I do not recommend Eco-Film because I don't use it. Easyweed is the exact same product and is sold cheaper.
 
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My mistake Flowerboxx, I must have been confused. I think most vinyls sold will do a fair job. The choice is up to the user and is based on experience's they have had with a company and/or product. I like eco film, but I like Hotmark real well too. I just can't find a reptuable supplier. The 2 suppliers that carry hotmark are not very customer support oriented. .... JB
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