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Old April 10th, 2008 Apr 10, 2008 10:21:38 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default pigmented ink transfer vs plastisol transfer

wuts the difference between the pigmented ink transfer and plastisol transfer.
if some1 can point out each one's advantages and disadvantages.
 
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Old April 11th, 2008 Apr 11, 2008 6:00:48 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: pigmented ink transfer vs plastisol transfer

Plastisol transfer is the same as a plastisol silkscreen done directly on a garment. The design is melted on to the shirt with a heat press. Done right, you can't tell that it was a transfer, you would think it was a direct silkscreen.

Pigmented ink transfers are water based and depending upon the transfer paper used, can leave a noticeable polymer film over your design. Plastisol transfers leave no such film.

I think plastisol holds up better in the wash, but I am sure I would get some arguments over that statement.
 
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Old April 12th, 2008 Apr 12, 2008 7:00:51 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: pigmented ink transfer vs plastisol transfer

To add to those points -

Plastisol is most commonly ordered out from a transfer company that makes them for you, whereas pigment is usually printed in house on a desktop inkjet printer.

I prefer the finished look and durability of plastisol, however the pigment is a nice option for controlling your own production as well as doing photos on apparel.
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Default Re: pigmented ink transfer vs plastisol transfer

Plastisol are better untel you go and wash them if you go to laundry mat you can not dry with heat it will crack,flake and peel.
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now with Pigmented ink transfers yuo can wash them in hot water,bleach them and dry them at the laundry mat please note that not all transfer paper are the same so you need ti find the paper that will do this
 
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Default Re: pigmented ink transfer vs plastisol transfer

I have never had a problem with plastisol cracking due to the heat of a dryer.
 
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Plastisol are better untel you go and wash them if you go to laundry mat you can not dry with heat it will crack,flake and peel.
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now with Pigmented ink transfers you can wash them in hot water,bleach them and dry them at the laundry mat please note that not all transfer paper are the same so you need ti find the paper that will do this
David, that is a misstatement. And you are doing plastisol a disservice by saying that. it may have been your experience but it is not the norm. I have had hundred of screen printed shirts (plastisol) and have yet to have any crack. Also what I supply my clients with comes from companies such as Ace and First edition which make my plastisol transfers and have not had an issue with any of those as well. Lou
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Default Re: pigmented ink transfer vs plastisol transfer

I have posted shirts that where done at the laundry mat I can post them some more and show you. the heat at laundry mat is not the same as the dryer you have at home the temp is way up there take shirt and go and put it in for 30 min and see what it will do
 
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I have posted shirts that where done at the laundry mat I can post them some more and show you. the heat at laundry mat is not the same as the dryer you have at home the temp is way up there take shirt and go and put it in for 30 min and see what it will do
Again, your situation is not the norm. And I know that you can adjust the heat in laundry mats. Other wise a lot of people would have problems with items that requre different heat setting..
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Lou ace is the ones that I did this with
I will post some more or may be you should go to the laundry mat and try and see
 
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how many people change the heat at laundry mats not many
 
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how many people change the heat at laundry mats not many
Now your trying to justify your statements.. Just ask a woman..
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LOU what is it with you why do you do this all I am saying is I did test and this is what happin now I am bad boy becouse I tell or give what I see you know that I do not make up what I see or do and I do pay for all my test and call it as I see it I thought that is what this forum is about to give out infor no matter if it is good or bad it dois happin and that is all I am saying have good day
 
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how many people change the heat at laundry mats not many
How many people actually use a laundry mat.
 
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Default Re: pigmented ink transfer vs plastisol transfer

I don't think Lou was attacking anyone on here. The way you worded your post David, it gave a general feeling that plastisol transfers were bad, especially compared to digital transfers. There are many people on these forums that use plastisol on a daily basis without any problems. You have to remember that ALL transfers can have problems at anytime. When I first used Ironall, I had a bad experience, but I changed some settings and it was fixed. The same thing can happen with plastisol transfers: not enough pressure, too much heat, to little heat, etc., that can affect them in the long run. I think everyone appreciate your input on this.
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I think David did some laundry mat tests using a stock transfer from Art Brands (single color white skull) and some digital transfers. I remember the post and the pics.

As for laundry mats and not adjusting dryer temps thats just silly. I havent been in a laundry mat since I was 6 years old. I know you did those test as an extreme example so saying plastisol doesnt hold up as well as a digital transfer at a laundry mat is misleading info for someone looking at the longevity of transfers.

I know what you are saying but it is irrelevant in a discussion of which is the better transfer under normal wash cycles.
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