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Old March 20th, 2008 Mar 20, 2008 6:13:43 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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I know this is a really simple question but I have just started looking into getting a vinyl cutter and don't know very much about them .

What does a machine that can do contour cuts do that a simpler machine can't? What exactly are contour cuts?

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Default Re: contour cutting

The units that contour cut, in simplistic terms, can cut around the design. They use a vector path to do this, the same thing that you would use to cut vinyl shapes.

In the case of regular transfers, removing the film that can be present where ther isn't a design. In the case of opaque transfers, remove the white backing. Without these specific cutters you would have to do it by hand.

So basically you have three kinds of cutters. Ones that cut, with out any kind of contour capabilities. Ones that can contour cut, but need a manual process to do it. An thirdly, ones that use an optical eye to recognize where to cut around the design.
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Default Re: contour cutting

would I need a cutter with an optical eye to cut vinyl into tranfers for t shirts? or to cut vinyl stickers?
 
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Default Re: contour cutting

For simple, unprinted vinyl, no, you wouldn't need a plotter with an optical eye for registration marks. You can cut apparel vinyl and sticker vinyl on just about any plotter (as long as it holds a blade!).

If you plan on cutting inkjet transfers, then yes, you would need a registration mark sensor.
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Default Re: contour cutting

good. i was getting worried looking at the optical eye cutter prices haha

I'm just trying to do simple one color designs and text and maybe some stickers so I think I'll be fine with a normal cutter.

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Default Re: contour cutting

You're welcome!

Have you checked out the Copam 2500 from USCutters yet? http://uscuttersdirect.com

I just received one to test side-by-side with a Roland GX-24, and I'm throwing my own comparrisons with our Graphtec CE5000-60.

The Copam seems to be a really well put together machine. I'm having a slight issue with it, but I'm betting it's just newbie user-error. You can read more on this thread: I Bought A Copam from US Cutter - Time to compare UScutter - Graphtec CE5000-60 - Roland GX 24

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Default Re: contour cutting

Cutters don't care what it's cutting ( a cut line is a cut line). However as everyone said, if you are doing transfer papaer, you would need the optical eye to read the registration marks when the paper is put in the cutter.

If you are cutting vinyl, flock, tackle twill etc..., thouse are cut based on the lines in the software, so an optical eye is not needed.
 
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Default Re: contour cutting

Our Copam doesn't do Contour Cutting, but we have a new model called the "LaserPoint" that does. You have to manually align, but it is extremely precise and very fast once you understand how to do it. There is very little that you sacrifice as compared to optical registration. While the machine is not as heavy-duty as the Copam, it is less expensive, and it really is a solid machine.

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While the machine is not as heavy-duty as the Copam, it is less expensive, and it really is a solid machine.
Can you elborate on "not as heavy-duty" please? Just for info sake. Thanks.
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Default Re: contour cutting

The Copam weighs about 70lbs boxed, the LaserPoint weights about 55 lbs (if you don't count the material basket). The Copam was developed in Taiwan and has a far more complex design. It is hard to describe the differences without seeing it first hand. There are probably several members on here who have both a Copam and a PCUT or a Copam and Refine, and I would say that the Laserpoint more closely resembles those models than the Copam in construction. That said, they are both capable of very accurate cutting, but I would expect the Copam to be more accurate over long distances and faster and quieter as well.

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