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Cutting_Edge · February 23rd, 2008

Good Morning......

I am toying with the idea of getting into using vinyl for shirts....and upon doing a little digging on shirt vinyl (thermoflex plus) I have found vast differences in pricing for it.......

Where does everyone get their shirt vinyl, what kind do you use, which one is easiest to weed, and what is the typical cost of a 15" x 5' roll of it?

TIA
Margaret
Cutting Edge

jberte · February 23rd, 2008

i was a dedicated thermoflex plus user for a long time....until i found multicut from joto paper....it's identical in feel and cut and since the rolls are 20", a better bargain!

Cutting_Edge · February 23rd, 2008

Afternoon.....

How about Thermoflex Plus for $15.40 per 5 foot roll? Is it a good price?

And why do you like the joto vinyl better?

Margaret
Cutting Edge

jberte · February 23rd, 2008

um......are you sure about that??? looks more like a price per yard! i haven't bought any thermo in a long time, but it seems that it was $40-something for a 5 yd roll.....15" material

the joto multicut is $45 for a 5 yd roll.....20" material

i love the way the material cuts, weeds and presses - hot peel - first time, every time. no fiddling with sweet spots on the time/temp. plus because it's a wider roll it seems to work out for less waste since more images can be ganged or flipped horizontally to take advantage of the extra width.

tia is my sales rep at joto and she's super friendly, helpful and knowledgeable about our industry.

Chani · February 23rd, 2008

We get our ThermoFlex Plus from Specialty Graphics Supply

They seem to have the best prices of anyone, plus they let you purchase vinyl just a foot at a time if you'd like. It's a little more that way, but better than wasting a 5 yard roll for just a couple of shirts.

I wouldn't mind trying more MultiCut from Joto. It's just that we get everything in 1-2 days from Specialty.

theflowerboxx · February 23rd, 2008

Chani you would get everything from Joto within 2 days too. They have a wharehouse in Washington state and one in Akron, Ohio so surely one of them places would be 2 day delivery for UPS.

I agree Jan, the extra width is what convinced me to use it, well that and you saying how great it was....

Cutting_Edge · February 23rd, 2008

These are the ads I found:

ThermoFlex Plus for FabricsSelect Item : 15"x3ft ThermoFlex Plus 15"x5ft Thermoflex Plus 15"x150ft ThermoFlex Plus Soft hand ThermoFlex Plus plotter cut films are for decorating cotton, cotton-polyester, wool, linen, Lycra, and some polyester athletic mesh knit fabrics. The satin finish colors are designed to match popular team colors. Withstands medium to high wash and dry temperatures. *Will NOT adhere to nylon. Price: $15.40Choose color : White Storm Grey Black Red Hot Pink Orange Texas Orange Maroon Athletic Gold Medium Yellow Lemon Yellow Navy Blue Royal Blue Teal Columbia Blue Royal Purple Kelly Green Forest Green Vanilla Cream Chocolate Brown Qty :
var NS4=(navigator.appName.indexOf("Netscape")>=0 && !document.getElementById)?true : false;function changeItem289() { var doc = document.mainFormG289.itemId289; var itemId = doc.options[doc.selectedIndex].value; var qstr = ''; window.location.href = "ThermoFlex_Plus.html?itemId289=" + escape(itemId) + qstr + '#anchor289';}*Application Parameters: 345-350 degrees F for 20 seconds
*Firm to hard pressure
*Peel warm or cold
*Always test for fabric compatibility
*Will NOT adhere to Nylon

ThermoFlex Plus for FabricsSelect Item : 15"x3ft ThermoFlex Plus 15"x5ft Thermoflex Plus 15"x150ft ThermoFlex Plus Soft hand ThermoFlex Plus plotter cut films for the decoration of cotton, cotton-polyester, wool, linen, Lycra, and some polyester athletic mesh knit fabrics. The satin finish colors are designed to match popular team colors. Withstands medium to high wash and dry temperatures. *Will NOT adhere to nylon. Price: $363.00Choose color : white Storm Grey Black Red Hot Pink Orange Texas Orange Maroon Athletic Gold Medium Yellow Lemon Yellow Navy Blue Royal Blue Teal Columbia Blue Royal Purple Kelly Green Forest Green Vanilla Cream Chocolate Brown Qty :
var NS4=(navigator.appName.indexOf("Netscape")>=0 && !document.getElementById)?true : false;function changeItem289() { var doc = document.mainFormG289.itemId289; var itemId = doc.options[doc.selectedIndex].value; var qstr = ''; window.location.href = "ThermoFlex_Plus.html?itemId289=" + escape(itemId) + qstr + '#anchor289';}*Application Parameters: 345-350 degrees F for 20 seconds
*Firm to hard pressure
*Peel warm or cold
*Always test for fabric compatibility
*Will NOT adhere to Nylon

ThermoFlex Plus for FabricsSelect Item : 15"x3ft ThermoFlex Plus 15"x5ft Thermoflex Plus 15"x150ft ThermoFlex Plus Soft hand ThermoFlex Plus plotter cut films are for decorating cotton, cotton-polyester, wool, linen, Lycra, and some polyester athletic mesh knit fabrics. The satin finish colors are designed to match popular team colors. Withstands medium to high wash and dry temperatures. *Will NOT adhere to nylon. Price: $11.31Choose Color : White Storm Grey Black Red Hot Pink Orange Texas Orange Maroon Althetic Gold Medium Yellow Lemon Yellow Navy Blue Royal Blue Teal Columbia Blue Royal Purple Kelly Green Forest Green Vanilla Cream Chocolate Brown Qty :
var NS4=(navigator.appName.indexOf("Netscape")>=0 && !document.getElementById)?true : false;function changeItem289() { var doc = document.mainFormG289.itemId289; var itemId = doc.options[doc.selectedIndex].value; var qstr = ''; window.location.href = "ThermoFlex_Plus.html?itemId289=" + escape(itemId) + qstr + '#anchor289';}*Application Parameters: 345-350 degrees F for 20 seconds
*Firm to hard pressure
*Peel warm or cold
*Always test for fabric compatibility
*Will NOT adhere to Nylon

I don't think that this is per yard......so it must be a decent deal? All the other places I have looked it was a heck of a lot higher.

Margaret
Cutting Edge

P.s. my copy and paste of this info didn't do what I hoped....hope you can figure this out.......
3 feet for $11.31
5 feet for $15.40
150 feet for $363.00

all 15 inch materials.

badalou · February 23rd, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by jberte


	i was a dedicated thermoflex plus user for a long time....until i found multicut from joto paper....it's identical in feel and cut and since the rolls are 20", a better bargain!

I agree, I also use heat press vinyl. They have some great matallic vinyl
ww.heatpressvinyl.com

Chani · February 23rd, 2008

I really need to try his glitters! We have sample swatches, and I absolutely LOVE them!

plan b · February 23rd, 2008

I started using themoflex plus pretty good stuff but a little hard on release, then I saw multi-cut and it dawned on me why in the heck am I buying 15" vinyl when I could buy a wide roll for about the same price as thermoflex, then I thought ok why buy a vinyl that doesn't work on all material like nylon etc, then I started doing jackets with nylon shell and on and on, so then I found that I had to buy other materials to do other fabrics and then all of a sudden I had all kinds of different vinyls, then it dawned on me there must be a better way and well you can guess where it went from there.

R.

HuMJohn · February 24th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chani


	We get our ThermoFlex Plus from Specialty Graphics Supply They seem to have the best prices of anyone, plus they let you purchase vinyl just a foot at a time if you'd like. It's a little more that way, but better than wasting a 5 yard roll for just a couple of shirts. I wouldn't mind trying more MultiCut from Joto. It's just that we get everything in 1-2 days from Specialty.

Chani:

Joto just started selling MultiCut in lengths of 3, 6, 9 and 27 yeards, instead of the old 5, 10 & 25 yard lengths.

Just a quick FYI.

Chani · February 24th, 2008

I just saw that. I got an email from them saying that MultiCut was on sale now, too.

badalou · February 25th, 2008

I think Joto multicut is great. Also look at some of the vinyls from www.heatpressvinyl.com as they are also here on the west cost and I have used them as well. I stop buying the 15 in width long ago. it was hard to gang actually 5 as i have a margin. I was able to get more cuts from the 20 in rolls and for the same price I was paying for the 15..

jberte · February 25th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by badalou


	I think Joto multicut is great. Also look at some of the vinyls from www.heatpressvinyl.com as they are also here on the west cost and I have used them as well. ..

i've tried

i asked for a catalog and color chips several weeks ago but no response yet... i'm particularly interested in that multi-lens looking stuff they did their own logo from!