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Old October 17th, 2007 Oct 17, 2007 6:38:36 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I am cutting some small pocket logos on Thermoflex Plus, when I try to weed them I am pulling the small letters off, I have tried several things but had no luck.
any advice? Maybe a different product would do better I need help!
 
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Old October 17th, 2007 Oct 17, 2007 6:53:01 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: weeding Thermoflex Plus

the letters should stick back on because of the sticky backing.

When I am weeding small lettering, I usually push the letters down to the backing before pulling. Its really hard to explain sorry. Almost like poking the lettering thru while you pull. Make sense? What comes off when you pull, you can just stick back on.

You could also try increasing the pressure on your cutter blade, that might be an issue.
 
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Old October 17th, 2007 Oct 17, 2007 7:26:46 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: weeding Thermoflex Plus

Thermoflex is the best for small lettering as it has the stickiest transfer sheet. Like Robin said, try increasing your down force. When you are pulling them off, does it seem like they are cut all the way. I use a dentist pick sometimes on small 1/8" lettering. Also if you are used to using a xacto knife, hold it at about 35 degree angle and pick the letters off with the tip. It doesn't hurt anything if you punch thru the transfer sheet.

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Old October 17th, 2007 Oct 17, 2007 9:36:21 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: weeding Thermoflex Plus

if your cutting with a roland or another plotter that maintains its origin point, you can send the paths to cut a second time.

and a little more blade pressure might help too.
 
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Old October 18th, 2007 Oct 18, 2007 6:38:12 AM -   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: weeding Thermoflex Plus

You can also try to adjust your blade depth in the holder slightly.
 
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Old October 18th, 2007 Oct 18, 2007 8:43:18 AM -   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: weeding Thermoflex Plus

hi
check the blades if they need replacement or force presure........
 
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Old October 18th, 2007 Oct 18, 2007 9:47:00 AM -   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: weeding Thermoflex Plus

I Used Spectracut 11 If The Letter Is To Small To 1 Cm Height, Try To Change The Fonts If Necessarly Or Increase Downforce A Little. I Have Copcam Cutter And I Have No Problems Cutting Small Letter.
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Old October 18th, 2007 Oct 18, 2007 7:41:25 PM -   #8 (permalink)
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Default Re: weeding Thermoflex Plus

and cut at a slower speed so the line can get a clean cut ......
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Old October 18th, 2007 Oct 18, 2007 7:45:39 PM -   #9 (permalink)
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I use multicut from Jojo paper. It is good price nad has sticky back. Lou
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Default Re: weeding Thermoflex Plus

I used to intern with a sign company. when they did vinyl with lots of detail, they'd use an xacto knife and cut small sections out at a time rather than peeling the entire negative out. i'd suggest at least trying that. cut a small weeding box around the letters so you can pay special attention to them when you're weeding.

hope that was worth the 15 seconds it took to read!

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Default Re: weeding Thermoflex Plus

Did your issue ever get resolved?

For smaller stuff in the sign world, believe it or not, a few moments in the freezer helps separate the cut. I'm not sure if this would work with this type of vinyl, but regular sign vinyl it can work wonders. Especially if you're having problems seeing the cuts.
 
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Old October 21st, 2007 Oct 21, 2007 8:20:58 PM -   #12 (permalink)
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Default Re: weeding Thermoflex Plus

^ As above -- in sign vinyl at least, if you let it sit around or get cold, the stuff will shrink juuust a little bit. When you've got a complex image cut in white for instance, this method will help you see what you're working with.

It'll also let you see any imperfections in the cut (offset, for instance)

I just tried Thermoflex Plus for the first time yesterday, and I think it's a pain to weed, personally. I can see the benefit for small letters, though.
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Default Re: weeding Thermoflex Plus

I think blade pressure is the key with thermoflex. If cut properly you should be able to grip it and rip it. I love this stuff with small letters. Not sure about your cutting production manager but mine offers a weed border ,basic cut around entire design and easy weed which boxes individual words etc within a design.
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Default Re: weeding Thermoflex Plus

Thermoflex plus and Multicut from Transfer Papers and Sublimation Inks at Joto is the easiest stuff I have ever weeded, as David said you should be able to just grip it and rip it.
 
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Default Re: weeding Thermoflex Plus

For me, I didn't have any trouble with getting a full and proper cut. It's just stuck to the backing incredibly well, almost too much for regular usage in my opinion. I really don't cut tiny letters often enough to choose TFP as my daily material.
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