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Old September 18th, 2007 Sep 18, 2007 1:35:05 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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O.K Hello T-shirt Family,

I' gonna post some of my shirts in another thread at some point.

We are getting ready to upgrade to a new vinyl cutter with registration reader. I've been using a redsail rs800c for some months now its a really really goodmember of our team.I would like to know what people heard about the two above vinyl cutters both good and bad. We are based in the U.K and support is a very important issue for us. If I were basedin the USA I would go for the gx24 just because of the support that Imprintables Warehouse gives. All here on the forum give good reports about them. Over here such support can be a challenge to find...

Whats good vs Whats bad?
Likes vs Dislikes?


Anything that can help would be much appreciated...

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Many thanks again...
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Old September 19th, 2007 Sep 19, 2007 2:58:14 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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Someone.........


Anyone...........

May be I guess I'll just go for the mimaki...

I like to be peculiar any how

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In a nutshell....
Roland's software is much easier to use and more efficient (less glitchy).
Roland cuts twill in one pass.

I believe the Mimaki is slightly less expensive.
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Old September 19th, 2007 Sep 19, 2007 3:22:48 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks Josh

Are you bias since you are very familiar with the Gx

Considering over here in the UK it seems as though there is not any real support for roland as there is back there do you think that is still a good look for me to get the roland. Everywhere I have ooked in the UK he prices seem to be practicaly the same...

This is why I am considering the two.

The supplier that I have approached has said to me that they believe that the mimaki is better so... i'm in this position...

What is Twill. Do you have any pictures you could post up here..

Have you used a mimaki before?...


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Twill is a thicker...fabric material. It is used mostly in embroidery applications. You will see it mostly on sweat shirts and such. The material (twill) is cut and sewn onto the garment. That is usually what you see on professional sports uniforms, like hockey and football. Instead of filling large areas with embroidered stitches, which can get expensive, you use twill and sew it down around the outside and heat press it to the garment.

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Are you bias since you are very familiar with the Gx

Considering over here in the UK it seems as though there is not any real support for roland as there is back there do you think that is still a good look for me to get the roland. Everywhere I have ooked in the UK he prices seem to be practicaly the same...

This is why I am considering the two.

The supplier that I have approached has said to me that they believe that the mimaki is better so... i'm in this position...

What is Twill. Do you have any pictures you could post up here..

Have you used a mimaki before?...


Thanks again for the input

Ezekiel
Hi Ezekiel

I'd say I'm a bit biased towards Roland, but we sell mimaki as well. We used to carry the Mimaki CG-60st which was the model prior to the CG-60sr. I liked the machine, but when we picked up the Roland we experienced a great decline in technical support calls mainly because the machine is easier to use.

After selling Roland and working with the Cut Studio software, it seems to me that the FineCut is more glitchy and a lot tougher to comprehend. But thats just my take on it. I have used the CG-60sr when we had it in our office for a couple months for testing.

Also, to help you out, I can still email you our training videos for the Roland if you decide to get it.

Here is a link to a pic of twill: http://www.rightsleeve.com/images/im..._imprint_6.jpg
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Hey Guys thank you all for all of your imput. This is really helpful stuff.

Josh you mentioned that the roland goes through twill once over. Can you let me know the cutting force of both of the machines. Is the force also releated to this.

Do you guys know where I can buy twill in the UK or do you have links for any suppliers that will ship to the UK. (Can I buy it in any normal material suppliers and does it go by the same name.)

Many thanks.

You guys are really good for all the info I realy appreciate it...

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I dont know anything about the other one. But I researched these for about a year. We just got back from the ISS show in Atlanta. While there we purchased the Roland GX-24 from Imprintables.

The main reason is the fact that we wanted to be able to do the custom twill applications. Not to mention Flock and other things. The Roland will do the twill without losing the warranty.
 
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Hey Guys thank you all for all of your imput. This is really helpful stuff.

Josh you mentioned that the roland goes through twill once over. Can you let me know the cutting force of both of the machines. Is the force also releated to this.

Do you guys know where I can buy twill in the UK or do you have links for any suppliers that will ship to the UK. (Can I buy it in any normal material suppliers and does it go by the same name.)

Many thanks.

You guys are really good for all the info I realy appreciate it...

Ezekiel
Actually, contrary to popular belief, the downforce isn't the primary factor in determining whether or not the cutter can cut twill.

When I cut on the GX I usually only use about 140 grams of downforce. it goes up to 250. I believe the Mimaki has similar specs (maybe goes to 300 grams?). I have sold units that go up to 400 grams of downforce that won't cut twill effectively.

Some of the deciding factors are: hardness of cutting strip, motor, does it void warranty, downforce, blade type, and also how the cutter head moves.
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Thanks again All

This is truly food for thought....

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Also, to help you out, I can still email you our training videos for the Roland if you decide to get it.
Josh thanks also for the offer of the vid s I may have to take you up on that

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Hello again guys,

I'm getting closer to the crunch as we select our retailer for our new vinyl cutter.

Two questions mainly for Josh.

previously you mentioned that the gx24 cuts through twill in one sitting. Did you manage to try the mimaki and how effective was that.

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Some of the deciding factors are: hardness of cutting strip, motor, does it void warranty, downforce, blade type, and also how the cutter head moves.
Could you give some futher explanations to the factors that you mentioned here Josh for individuals that are not as familiar as of yet with the roland as you are. Pretty Please...

Josh would you ever consider doing some videos for the mimaki?... or is that completely out...

Many thanks once again guys for listening and putting up with some of these ..Q's

Thanks for all your input. And I thank God also for so many friendly people

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Im a Roland dealer so im partial to the gx. I have one and use the hell out of it and it just keeps going. Roland is only a phone call away
 
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Your imput is much apreciated

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we have a youtube account that we made that has a collection of all videos I could and continue to find out there on the internet. If you have any trouble finding the videos Josh is talking about, give this link a try:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

hope this helps,
 
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