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Old July 17th, 2007 Jul 17, 2007 2:11:45 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hey,

I am a newbie...Can anyone help me on How to cut 2 or 3 color prints on roland cutter and place them on the t-shirt in such a way that they are matching.

Also how to weed the design from the vinyl sheet? incase of 2 or 3 colors...
 
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Hey,

I am a newbie...Can anyone help me on How to cut 2 or 3 color prints on roland cutter and place them on the t-shirt in such a way that they are matching.

Also how to weed the design from the vinyl sheet? incase of 2 or 3 colors...
I DO A LOT OF 2 COLOR GREEK LETTERING. THE SAME APPLICATION APPLIES TO 3 OR 4 COLORS. IN CUT STUDIO I CREATE/SIZE/LAY-OUT THE FIRST LAYER (COLOR) THEN TO "OBJECT", "CREATE POLYLINE", THEN "OBJECT" AGAIN, THEN "OFFSET". NOW IN THE OFFSET TASK BOX CHOOSE THE OUTSIDE DIMENSION THAT YOU WANT FOR YOUR SECOND LAYER (COLOR). NOW YOU HAVE 2 SEPERATE LAYERS. SELECT ONE AND MOVE IT ASIDE. SELECT THE OTHER LAYER AND WITH JUST THAT LAYER SELECTED GO TO YOUR CUTTER AND RATHER THAN CUTTING "ALL" SELECT "SELECTION". NOW YOUR CUTTER WILL ONLY CUT THE SELECTED LAYER. NOW, SWITCH MATERIAL COLOR ON YOUR CUTTER. GO BACK TO YOUR TEXT AND SELECT AND SET-UP (MOVE TO CORNER) YOUR SECOND LAYER (COLOR). AGAIN CHOOSE "SELECTION" RATHER THAN "ALL" ON YOUR CUTTER AND CUT. NOW, I APPLY THE BOTTOM LAYER AND ONCE GARMENT/DECORATION HAS COOLED I APPLY THE SECOND COLOR IN POSITION (SIMPLY "EYE-BALLIING" IT) AND PRESS. SHAZZAM! 2 COLORS.
 
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Old July 17th, 2007 Jul 17, 2007 4:06:23 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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basically you have to place each color at a time visually checking the placement.
 
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yes, one layer at a time. but, again, i just do simple 2 color greek lettering.
 
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yes, one layer at a time. but, again, i just do simple 2 color greek lettering.
hey ..thanks for that simple but quite useful suggestion..i will try it that way..n tell you hw the result was...
 
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A simple two color overlay.
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A simple two color overlay.
Have they been exported with regn.marks to roland cutting s/w?...to match both easily while placing on the tee...
 
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The thing about registration marks, they do not work on shirts!! If you put a registration mark on a shirt it will press onto the shirt. Unlike regular sign vinyl they don't peel off, they are permanent. Second, once you press the first layer onto the shirt you will have shrinkage and stretching making the marks pretty much useless. You can usually stretch the shirt to make the colors match but the registration marks would be of no use to you since the shrinkage is not consistant through the whole design. The good news is that the backing is usually tacky so you can see the how the design looks before you press it and if it doesn't match you can change it before you press it.
 
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Have they been exported with regn.marks to roland cutting s/w?...to match both easily while placing on the tee...
It is thermoflex plus and no reg. marks. Overlays are quite simple, no need for reg. marks. I use Flexi as my software.
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It is thermoflex plus and no reg. marks. Overlays are quite simple, no need for reg. marks. I use Flexi as my software.
Hi,,how about small designs with quite a lot of details....is it possible? if yes hows the weeding done for such designs where there are lots of separate objects?

last night i tried a logo of an institution..but couldnt make it because it was having many letters that are small...

is it basically like flex, flock, vinyl can only be done for bigger lettering, numbers etc..and not for smaller detailed illustations....

pls help me!!!
 
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Hi,,how about small designs with quite a lot of details....is it possible? if yes hows the weeding done for such designs where there are lots of separate objects?

last night i tried a logo of an institution..but couldnt make it because it was having many letters that are small...

is it basically like flex, flock, vinyl can only be done for bigger lettering, numbers etc..and not for smaller detailed illustations....

pls help me!!!
Here is a pic I posted in another thread, it shows how tiny in marks on the square is. This is a single layer but I think you will get the picture.

When doing small cuts turn the speed on the machine way down.

T-shirt vinyl is so much easier to cut and weed then sign vinyl is, at least to me it is.

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Default Re: Multicolor vinyl cutting placement!!

hi everyone.

can you put one color on top of the other and press at once or press each color separately?

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can you put one color on top of the other and press at once or press each color separately?

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With Thermoflex and the sticky backing you need to press each color sep. unless they dont overlap. First press is 5 seconds and peel away. second press around 20-25 seconds and peel away.
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I tried this with Avery PolyFlex. It did work, but with the second layer (orange), the white glue from the backing oozed out all way around (only a small amount but it shows).

I'm not sure what causes this, too much pressure, too hot, too long??

FYI, I cut with a Roland GX-24 and the press is a Mighty Electronic Cap Press.

I used for the second layer 20 secs, 340 degrees.

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