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So T-Bot and I were chatting and rapping and it went a little somthing like this... Is it possible to use a printer/cutter to print an image onto vinyl and then cut out the shape?
The idea is to make a DIY style Lithographic Transfer.
The big question is, will the ink hold up on the vinyl through a whole lot of washes on a t-shirt, just like a regular litho transfer?
I welcome all comments and brilliant ideas!
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Re: Printed/cut vinyl: A poor man's Litho Transfer
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So T-Bot and I were chatting and rapping and it went a little somthing like this... Is it possible to use a printer/cutter to print an image onto vinyl and then cut out the shape
It seems like this would be possible with a printer/cutter like a Roland Versacamm, but with a $12,000-$20,000 pricetag, I'm not sure I would call it the "poor mans" litho transfer
Although, if you had someone that had that machine and you outsourced the vinyl transfers to them, that seems like it would work for short run transfers in that style.
Re: Printed/cut vinyl: A poor man's Litho Transfer
It's not really vinyl but maybe you can get a little similar result using a a Roland Versacamm (print&cut machine), or other print-only solvent machine, and use the "forever-solvent dark" or "forever-solvent dark metallic" transfer papers. Check out this brochure from forever:
Re: Printed/cut vinyl: A poor man's Litho Transfer
I have never seen a sample of this, but Specialty Materials has a product called ColorJet III that will allow you to use standard inks / standard printer to print to a specific type of vinyl for print-cut applications. I image it has to have an IRC (Inkjet Receptive Coating) on it. Here is the link - Color Jet III
Re: Printed/cut vinyl: A poor man's Litho Transfer
Thats exactly what I want the VersaCamm for. There is a garment vinyl made, its name slips my mind right now, that works with Eco inks for printing and contour cutting the design. The camo pattern would be a breeze to print, not sure what part of it you would want cut.
Re: Printed/cut vinyl: A poor man's Litho Transfer
We have been giving some seminars on this technology over the last year throughout PA, WV, NY and OH. This technology is definitely up and coming for garment decoration. Basically it gives you all of the advantages of opaque Inkjet printed paper without the durability concerns. With an integrated solution like a printer/cutter trimming is automatic as well. The overall results (look, feel, durability) vary a lot depending on the media used, but the solvent inks with a good media can yield great results. Of course every process has its limitations, but the positives of this process are exciting!
I'm actually traveling up to a new office that we just opened in Columbus on Monday to set up for a seminar. I will do my best to fit a video of the process into the schedule and post it up towards the end of next week.
Start up cost is a factor as well....See Rodneys prior post in this thread.
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Originally Posted by JonWye
So T-Bot and I were chatting and rapping and it went a little somthing like this... Is it possible to use a printer/cutter to print an image onto vinyl and then cut out the shape?
The idea is to make a DIY style Lithographic Transfer.
The big question is, will the ink hold up on the vinyl through a whole lot of washes on a t-shirt, just like a regular litho transfer?
Re: Printed/cut vinyl: A poor man's Litho Transfer
Please do keep us updated on the seminar and future advancements. I know a lot of designers are dying to bring back some of that 70's look.
True the setup for a printer/cutter would be expensive, but that's why we rely on the kindness of stranger... ie companies to invest in the equiptment and offer their services to us peons.
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Re: Printed/cut vinyl: A poor man's Litho Transfer
T-Bot,
Is this the Color Jet III vinyl? Just wondering if you have tried it with a traditional inkjet printer and standard transfer inks (not solvent based inks). I am curious as to how well the print looks and lasts. Since it is a 20" wide roll, the smallest printer you could use would be a 7800 printer unless you are cutting the roll down yourself.
From Specialty Materials website, it does not say whether it is a cuttable/weedable vinyl. Might have to add a carrier sheet to it, cut it in the positive and mask it to get it to work correctly. That seems like a lot of work.
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I will be going to the Las Vegas ARA Show later this week and I am sure I will see a VersaCamm printer there. I will try to take a picture or even shoot a video of it if possible.
Re: Printed/cut vinyl: A poor man's Litho Transfer
I purchased the Color Jet III in 8.5x11 sheets, I have printed it, cut and weeded it, pressed it, but have not done any wash tests yet.
Best Regards,
Lloyd
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Originally Posted by DAGuide
T-Bot,
Is this the Color Jet III vinyl? Just wondering if you have tried it with a traditional inkjet printer and standard transfer inks (not solvent based inks). I am curious as to how well the print looks and lasts. Since it is a 20" wide roll, the smallest printer you could use would be a 7800 printer unless you are cutting the roll down yourself.
From Specialty Materials website, it does not say whether it is a cuttable/weedable vinyl. Might have to add a carrier sheet to it, cut it in the positive and mask it to get it to work correctly. That seems like a lot of work.
Re: Printed/cut vinyl: A poor man's Litho Transfer
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Originally Posted by DAGuide
T-Bot,
Is this the Color Jet III vinyl? Just wondering if you have tried it with a traditional inkjet printer and standard transfer inks (not solvent based inks). I am curious as to how well the print looks and lasts. Since it is a 20" wide roll, the smallest printer you could use would be a 7800 printer unless you are cutting the roll down yourself.
From Specialty Materials website, it does not say whether it is a cuttable/weedable vinyl. Might have to add a carrier sheet to it, cut it in the positive and mask it to get it to work correctly. That seems like a lot of work.
yes, this is to be used with a bubble jet printer, it is vinyl by the feel of it, then you can use a cutter to cut around the designs, it comes with a carrier backing already and you weed it like normal vinyl, you can also cut it down off the roll to the paper size you need to fit your printer.
Sorry, but I dont have a bubble jet printer myself to test it. ...but Brian (the testing guy) tested it about a year ago...as far as i know its a great product.
I usually do not fiddle with this stuff, not my forte.
This is a discussion about Printed/cut vinyl: A poor man's Litho Transfer that was posted in the Vinyl Cutters (Plotters) and Transfers section of the forums.
Printed/cut vinyl: A poor man's Litho Transfer 
....curious to see what the Vinyl peeps have to say.
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...but Brian (the testing guy) tested it about a year ago...as far as i know its a great product.
