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Old February 14th, 2007 Feb 14, 2007 11:20:26 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy Twill Cutting Question...

I bought my Roland GX-24 package from Imprintables and they sent me a roll of twill with it. The twill is adhered to the plastic carrier and rolled up (just like a roll of vinyl) so it's easy to stick in the cutter and cut it. After cutting you peel it off the carrier and stick it to the garment, then press & sew. I then later went and bought about $100 worth of twill in various colors. When I got it, it is not on a roll, nor is it on the plastic carrier. It's just a sheet of twill with some heat sensitive substance on the back to stick it to your material.

My question is, what am I supposed to do with this??? Without the plastic carrier, it can't be cut with a vinyl cutter. The only thing I've been able to do is cut out my letters and #'s by hand, and that's after making a cardboard pattern to trace onto the twill first. What a pain! I'm just curious. What would somebody use this twill for? Surely they don't cut out letters and numbers with scissors? Does anybody know of any way I could cut this with my cutter? I tried it once, but the material just moves around and the cutters stops. I can't even imagine why they make such a product that does not have a carrier backing suitable for a vinyl cutter.

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Old February 15th, 2007 Feb 15, 2007 12:27:52 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Twill Cutting Question...

I know next to nothing about vinyl, so bearing that in mind until someone comes along who does...

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Does anybody know of any way I could cut this with my cutter?
You can get a sticky mylar carrier sheet which you could attach this material to, and cut as per normal. It has been recommended before for light transfer paper which has the same problem of not being able to be cut since it's single ply. I know nothing about plotters, but I think this is the solution you are after all the same.
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Default Re: Twill Cutting Question...

Rusty,
Most likely that twill is designed to be used with a bed cutter..such as the IOLINE 300....the twill rests in a tray and is cut from the top.Or it could be you need to purchase the transfer heat resistant tape from Stahls or some of the other suppliers.
1.roll out the desired amount of twill
2.lay down clear transfer sheet over the top
3. use a roller to get out the wrinkles
4.place in cutter and cut negative
Now your ready to roll just like the pressure sensitive twill you bought the first time around.
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You can get a sticky mylar carrier sheet which you could attach this material to, and cut as per normal.
Yes, that would be great. Do you know who might sell this?

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It has been recommended before for light transfer paper which has the same problem of not being able to be cut since it's single ply.
I've wondered that too. I've heard that you can cut designs from transfer paper, but wondered how it would actually hold up in the cutter. It doesn't seem like it would work without the mylar to stabilize it.
 
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Yes, that would be great. Do you know who might sell this?
Josh at Imprintables has mentioned it before, and I believe they sell it.
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Default Re: Twill Cutting Question...

I emailed Imprintables back in December, asking them this question, and they never responded. And before I ordered the twill, I called and asked if it came on the carrier, and they told me yes. I also asked some questions about their SpectraCut II and got no response. So in my experience, their customer service has been terrible. And I don't see the mylar anywhere on their website.
 
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In that case, if you're up for giving them a second chance I'd contact Josh directly.
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Default Re: Twill Cutting Question...

Imprintables as been generally good about customer service, hopefully it wasn't just a lost email or miscommunication.

One of our members, Josh Ellsworth, works for Imprintables and if you like, I'm sure he can look into your order and get things straightened out.

He might be at an ISS tradeshow in Orlando, but you can give him a call at 1-800-347-0068 (ask for Josh), or you can send him a Private Message via the forums here.
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Thanks. I just sent Josh a PM.
 
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Default Re: Twill Cutting Question...

We use Wellington house...they used to do all our custom cutting til we purchased our own.Now they supply us will all our needs.And they bend over backwards for you....just my 2 cents
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Thanks. Their prices look pretty good too.
 
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Default Re: Twill Cutting Question...

I got a roll of mylar from Josh at imprintables, no it's not on the web site.
It has a paper side you peel off to reveal the sticky side of the mylar.
I haven't used it to do what you want, but I think it would work well in that application.
 
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Default Re: Twill Cutting Question...

Wow, I remember making stencils and cutting our my own letters and numbers on heat sensitive twill...*thinks back, ahhh memories, lol*

Now we just get ours pre-cut from our suppliers of twill. Occassionally we'l cut out something funky by hand, so we'll buy the twill with a heat seal adhesive. So for some, like us at times, we'll buy it like that. But yes, I think that just purchasing the heat seal twill as is is best for the Ioline 300.
 
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I bought a die cutter in the early 80s, as in 1980's. I have lotsa steel rule dies. Most of these dies were made by a local Die maker, who did not make all the letters 2" or4", whatever. Anyhow, that is what sheets of twill are for. I also bought a cutter from Stahls, that they don't make anymore using a heat tip to cut twill and flock. They sold sheets to fit the cutter, which I now have to scissor cut to fit the cutter. The heat tip cutter is 15 to 20 years old, and still works. They supplied floppy disks for use as fonts, and it cut letters, I believe, to 24' high, but I haven't cut any.
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Default Re: Twill Cutting Question...

For anyone still wondering about this, they have both Magic Mask and TTD Mask. I just talked to Josh yesterday, and he suggested using TTD Mask as it doesn't have the curling problem that Magic Mask has when you place it on a heat press, but either will work with twill.

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