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Old January 26th, 2007 Jan 26, 2007 11:15:06 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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I'm fairly new to the heat vinyl tranfer method. I have a Roland Cutter which I love, and have a few satisfied customers. However, one or two customers have heard that heat applied vinyl cracks after being worn and washed for a while. Does anyone know if this is true?
 
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However, one or two customers have heard that heat applied vinyl cracks after being worn and washed for a while. Does anyone know if this is true?
With any imprinting method, there is a danger that the design will crack if it was applied improperly (wrong temperature, not enough pressure, etc). But this is not the norm. If you apply it correctly, the vinyl should last as long as the shirt.
 
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Old January 26th, 2007 Jan 26, 2007 11:34:30 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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I'm fairly new to the heat vinyl tranfer method. I have a Roland Cutter which I love, and have a few satisfied customers. However, one or two customers have heard that heat applied vinyl cracks after being worn and washed for a while. Does anyone know if this is true?
I have never seen vinyl crack. I am suprised a customer off the street actually knows what vinyl shirt decoration actually is. I think they probably got that info from another source who wasnt any more familiar with vinyl than plastisol transfers or digitally printed and applied transfers. Quality vinyl will probably out last the shirt when applied correctly.
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Old January 26th, 2007 Jan 26, 2007 12:20:16 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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If you apply it correctly, the vinyl should last as long as the shirt.
Thank you Jasonda. You've put my mind at rest.

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Old January 26th, 2007 Jan 26, 2007 12:23:42 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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I have never seen vinyl crack. I am suprised a customer off the street actually knows what vinyl shirt decoration actually is.
Thank you David. I was surprised too. I thought perhaps that they knew something I didn't know. The cutter having cost me an arm and a leg, you can appreciate my concern!

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the supersilver "Deco Film" will crack if applied to a t' with baby fine ribbing.

However the same supersilver is fine on gilden t's has been perfectly fine.

Other regular vinyl applied to other fine ribbed t's has also been fine.
 
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Thanks for the info you Robin, well worth knowing.

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I have been using the vinyl for years and never had a crack yet. My personal shirts I have washed 50 or 60 times and they still look new.
 
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I have been using the vinyl for years and never had a crack yet. My personal shirts I have washed 50 or 60 times and they still look new.
Thank you Jim. I am fairly new to vinyl transfers, so I need to check out myths I've heard.
 
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I am suprised a customer off the street actually knows what vinyl shirt decoration actually is.

Hardly anyone outside of the business knows about it in the US, but from what I've heard, vinyl/flock may be more common and/or more well-known over in the UK, where the original poster is from. This might explain why the average Joe knew of the process, anyway =)
 
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Hardly anyone outside of the business knows about it in the US, but from what I've heard, vinyl/flock may be more common and/or more well-known over in the UK, where the original poster is from. This might explain why the average Joe knew of the process, anyway =)
Yes, could be. Anyway, I'm sure they've got it wrong about it cracking!

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Back in the 1980's (gasp) I bought several t-shirts from a place that you picked the design and shirt you wanted, and they heat transfered it there right in front of you. Neat way to allow variety without so much inventory. Well, I was so encanted at watching the process that i ordered several shirts. Those heat transfered designs did crack over the years (especially as I gained weight), mostly noticed when they came out of the dryer. The new stuff is much better, but stuff still happens on a rare occaision, especially with improper care.

Because of that shop, people over 30 in the 100,000 population ciy of duluth aren't very trustful of heat transfers. I prefer to tell them about this neat vinyl or better yet, flock.

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Hi Kathy
Thanks for your reply. I think it's mostly older folk who remember transfer prints cracking. The manufacturer claims that their new stuff can be washed at high temperatures, (except glitter and glow in the dark), dry cleaned, tumble dried and ironed - although I wouldn't recommend ironing the motif top side. As I'm fairly new to this, I am just a bit wary!
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I think my vinyl shirts will wear out before the vinyl cracks. I have one that has been washed at least 30 times and it is good as the day I did it. However the shirt is getting a beating. If a customer "heard something" then I would ask where, when and why. if they can't answer then it may have come from someone who doesn't do vinyl and doesn't want to lose business.
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The only time I've seen vinyl crack is on a thin line going horizontally on a stretchy material... once. The stuff is strong and won't break down like an old transfer.
 
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