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Old January 13th, 2007 Jan 13, 2007 12:31:34 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Question My Vinyl is peeling off!

I am VERY new at this whole t-shirt thing... I have a GCC Sable plotter, SignPal, and ThermoFlex Plus.
I'm only using 100% cotton and some cotton/poly blends, which specialty matterials reccomends, but on some of my shirts, the vinyl is peeling right off. Especially the deco-sparkle line...
Some shirts are fine until they get washed a few times, others peel off right away.
Here's what I'm doing:

I press the vinyl 20 to 40 seconds, peel off the mylar backing hot (unless in deco-sparkle, then cold)
I press again to "seal" the image for 10 more seconds.

What am I doing wrong?
 
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Old January 13th, 2007 Jan 13, 2007 12:43:04 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Are you using enough pressure?
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Old January 13th, 2007 Jan 13, 2007 1:07:08 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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I repress some fonts for the full time it calls for. I havent had anything come off except for some early shirts that had pointy fonts.

Isnt deco-sparkle cold peel? I used this stuff on a tote bag, and had to press the begeezus out of it, to get it to stick. Its good now tho.

Check your pressure too like James suggested.
 
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Old January 13th, 2007 Jan 13, 2007 2:40:25 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Robin, Just to let you know I was just on your site and your magnetic link on the left side is not working. Your site looks great.
 
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Old January 13th, 2007 Jan 13, 2007 2:49:43 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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I thought all vinyl transfers were cold peel?
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I repress some fonts for the full time it calls for. I havent had anything come off except for some early shirts that had pointy fonts.

Isnt deco-sparkle cold peel? I used this stuff on a tote bag, and had to press the begeezus out of it, to get it to stick. Its good now tho.

Check your pressure too like James suggested.
I looked for the begeezus setting on my press but couldn't find it.
 
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Old January 13th, 2007 Jan 13, 2007 3:13:17 PM -   #7 (permalink)
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I thought all vinyl transfers were cold peel?
I actually hot peel a lot of them, much easier and quicker.
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Old January 13th, 2007 Jan 13, 2007 3:32:44 PM -   #8 (permalink)
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Robin, Just to let you know I was just on your site and your magnetic link on the left side is not working. Your site looks great.
Thanks for letting me know Bob, I really appreciate it.
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I thought all vinyl transfers were cold peel?
I thought so too.....James...how do you hot peel them without the vinyl coming back off and sticking to the mylar? Ive put certain small fonted (is that a word?) shirts back on the heat press while the bottom was still warm....warmed up the shirt a bit and peeled back the mylar. That seemed to help quite a bit in getting it off without damaging the vinyl.

Do tell James.....I want to give this a try.

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it just shows up one day.....trust me lol
 
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I thought all vinyl transfers were cold peel?
As James said I also hot peel thermoflex all the time as it comes off much easier than letting it cool.
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Thanks for letting me know Bob, I really appreciate it.
No problem Robin.
 
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I thought so too.....James...how do you hot peel them without the vinyl coming back off and sticking to the mylar? Ive put certain small fonted (is that a word?) shirts back on the heat press while the bottom was still warm....warmed up the shirt a bit and peeled back the mylar. That seemed to help quite a bit in getting it off without damaging the vinyl.
One time, the mylar backing came off and got stuck to the teflon sheet when I was helping my business partner pressing a bunch of shirts. Before that point, we just cold peel it. I think you have to use A LOT of pressure though. I generally set the heat press at around 340 degrees, press down for about 20seconds, and the backing just come right off as we remove the teflon sheet. For some reason, it doesn't work with our gray shirts (10/90 but so are the other colors).
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hmm, I'll give it a try James. Thanks
 
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Old January 14th, 2007 Jan 14, 2007 7:33:10 AM -   #12 (permalink)
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Are you pre-heating the garment to remove the moisture and wrinkles? Thermoflex doesnt say to preheat, but Ive found if you do things go a lot smoother. I havent had a single peel-off doing it this way so far. And try the next batch as cold peel, that much they do recommend.
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Like Dave said pre-heat the shirts especially 6 oz. black. Pre-Heat if you live in a humid environment for at least 20 seconds. Use quite a bit of pressure for vinyl.
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Default Re: My Vinyl is peeling off!

Well, I recently found the pressure knob... that would've been nice if they covered that in the manual.... Fixed my problem! Thanks!

I also pressed a deco-sparkle with higher pressure and I presses it twice, doesn't look like it's coming off so far.. (it actually looks melted)
 
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Good to know it was something simple......glad its sticking!! lol
 
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