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What did Threadless do about Tags before thay Made their Own Shirts?



 
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Old August 25th, 2009 Aug 25, 2009 7:38:08 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hello,

Quick question. Before Threadless switched to their own shirts they used blanks I believe.

Did they leave on the original manufacturors tags and print on the garment underneath?

Have the tags professionally removed?

Or just cut them down?

Would love to know if anyone here can remember.

Also what kind of blanks did they use? I believe it was AA towards the end, any other ones beforehand?


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Old August 25th, 2009 Aug 25, 2009 1:39:57 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: What did Threadless do about Tags before thay Made their Own Shirts?

I believe that they cut them out, and they didn't do a very good job of it either. Pretty tacky in my opinion.
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Old August 25th, 2009 Aug 25, 2009 1:58:35 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: What did Threadless do about Tags before thay Made their Own Shirts?

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Also what kind of blanks did they use?
They used Fruit of the Loom brand blanks for a long while. Not as nice as American Apparel or what they are using now.

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Have the tags professionally removed?

Or just cut them down?
They were just cut off. Here's a picture of what they used to look like:

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Old August 25th, 2009 Aug 25, 2009 2:46:35 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: What did Threadless do about Tags before thay Made their Own Shirts?

Thanks very much for the info and the picture, I really appreciate it.

Having looked into the costs of getting labels professionally removed it seems very pricey so I might just stick with the DIY job for the moment.

Is there any special tool/scissors/blade that will give the best results for cutting off a label?

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I use a $3 seam ripper (although i don't rip the seam) from the local sewing store. It's U shaped with the bottom of the U being a razor sharp blade. The top of the U serves to protect the shirt from being cut. One swipe with this and you can't even tell a label was there. I replace it once a month or so after it gets dull.
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Old August 25th, 2009 Aug 25, 2009 3:12:59 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Any chance of a link to a picture of one or where to buy (I'm in Europe not US).

A search for seam ripper on eBay shows up a different product, perhaps they have a different name?
 
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I use a stanley knife blade or a craft knife, if there are any stray bits you can push them up under the neck tape.
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This is what i use
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Old August 26th, 2009 Aug 26, 2009 1:06:58 AM -   #9 (permalink)
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Default Re: What did Threadless do about Tags before thay Made their Own Shirts?

A brief history of Threadless t-shirts and tags:

Originally they cut out all original tags and sewed in a woven tag with only their company name (this is illegal). Then they cut out the tags and printed a label with humorous care instructions and no real ones (this is also illegal). Then they cut out the manufacturer tags and printed the information directly into the neck.

I'm not sure if this is what they were using from day one, but for the longest part of their existence they used Fruit of the Loom 50/50 Best shirts for men, and American Apparel shirts for women (and had a $2 price difference between men and women's shirts, reflecting the wholesale cost difference).

When they introduced the Select series, they used American Apparel for men's and women's shirts.

I believe the toddler line and their hoodies were also American Apparel (I know they used AA - I'm just not 100% positive they didn't use something else earlier, but I don't think so).

When they first announced they were having their own shirts produced and released a prototype, the prototype had a tag stub from a cut out tag (on their supposedly custom product) and little to none of the legally required labelling information printed on the product (again).

They still use AA for various things to this day.


The briefer version: lots of FotL 50/50s and lots of American Apparel, generally with roughly hacked out tags.


Some things Threadless do they do well and are worth imitating. Other times the way they do things is illegal and/or shoddy. When it comes to the way they handle their labelling it's generally the latter.
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Default Re: What did Threadless do about Tags before thay Made their Own Shirts?

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This is what i use
Thanks, that is the item I found for seam ripper, I was thinking it would look different.

So do you just drag it across the label like a blade to cut it?
 
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Thanks, that is the item I found for seam ripper, I was thinking it would look different.

So do you just drag it across the label like a blade to cut it?
Yes. i put the ball capped end underneath the label where I can't see the cut as well so as not to poke a hole in the shirt. The pointed end swipes across on top of the label. I push the ripper up as i am swiping and i get a cut almost to label sew line.
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Yes. i put the ball capped end underneath the label where I can't see the cut as well so as not to poke a hole in the shirt. The pointed end swipes across on top of the label. I push the ripper up as i am swiping and i get a cut almost to label sew line.
Bought one and tried it out last night, it worked perfectly, you'd never have known there was a label there!

Thanks for the help, really appreciate it

Now to find the cheapest way of printing labels on to the t-shirt...
 
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Old September 15th, 2009 Sep 15, 2009 4:46:59 PM -   #13 (permalink)
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What exactly is illegal? Removing someone elses tag or the omission of information? I plan on doing tagless on some of my nicer shirts. The Gildans I may or may not remove. The information I plan on providing is "company name", "shirt size", "shirt ingredients (i.e. 100% Cotton)", and "washing instructions". Some of my shirts come from Bare Apparel and Royal Apparel and are already tagless or are tear away. Therefore I do not know where on the planet they are made. If I recall Bare Apparel says they are made in the US. But other than patriotic reasons does it matter where the shirt is made? Is there a legal reference for tag requirements? Thanks
 
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Unless Bare Apparel and Royal are putting on illegal labels, they will have country of origin.

It is not illegal to remove a label as long as you replace it with the required legal info. Here is the site with the rules/laws Threading Your Way Through the Labeling Requirements Under the Textile and Wool Acts
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Thanks Joe. I actually answered my own questions and read a bunch at the FTC site prior to your reply, but thanks for replying. There is a lot to know.

What Bare Apparel and/or Royal Apparel do is link to a page which lists the details of the product line, being the shirts come with no labels. For example if I bought a shirt from the line 100A I would click on the link 100A and then all the necessary info is found there on their website.
 
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