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This section of the forum is where Rodney, a die hard screen printing fan, journeys into the world of heat press and heat transfers. Coming from the perspective of a complete heat press newbie making t-shirts for the first time. Jump right in :)

[PLASTISOL TRANSFERS] - a review of 8 different custom plastisol transfer screen printers - samples followup



 
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Old August 22nd, 2007 Aug 22, 2007 4:22:22 PM -   #91 (permalink)
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Hi Rodney,

Are those all for inkjet transfer paper. Can you please tell us what kind of printer did you you.
I'm still reading some of the thread here before I buy that Roland GX-24 from imprintables.com.

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Old August 22nd, 2007 Aug 22, 2007 4:32:47 PM -   #92 (permalink)
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Hi Rodney,

Are those all for inkjet transfer paper. Can you please tell us what kind of printer did you you.
I'm still reading some of the thread here before I buy that Roland GX-24 from imprintables.com.

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Inkjet paper and plastisol transfers are two completely separate processes.

This post here should clarify what plastisol transfers are: what is a plastisol (silk screen printed) heat transfer: a definition
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Old August 28th, 2007 Aug 28, 2007 9:47:28 AM -   #93 (permalink)
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thia was an amazing post, thank you!
 
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Old September 1st, 2007 Sep 1, 2007 7:09:44 PM -   #94 (permalink)
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Rodney,

Which one has a good cost to quality ratio??? Basically what I am sayin gives which one gives you the best value?
 
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Old September 3rd, 2007 Sep 3, 2007 11:55:20 AM -   #95 (permalink)
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Do you have the URLs to thos e big guys you referenced?
 
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Rodney...do you know anything about Ace Transfer Company?
 
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Old September 4th, 2007 Sep 4, 2007 7:33:36 AM -   #97 (permalink)
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Do you have the URLs to those big guys you referenced?

Most of them can be found linked from Rodney's original post. Otherwise, a quick Google search of the company's name should bring up their site as well.


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do you know anything about Ace Transfer Company?

I know that a fair number of people have used them with good results, both here and on the Yahoo HTFDP board. Personally, their website put me off and I didn't even want to try them - especially that hideous, jagged-edged image at the top of the main page.
 
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Old September 6th, 2007 Sep 6, 2007 7:30:37 PM -   #98 (permalink)
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Rodney,

Which one has a good cost to quality ratio??? Basically what I am sayin gives which one gives you the best value?
There's no easy answer to that...sorry.

The reviews I provided give a good general overview of the pros and cons....after that, you have to make your own choices and check out samples

My results are also based on a person just starting out with plastisol transfers. Someone more experienced may have a totally different experience or preference.

Just jump in and try some
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Old September 12th, 2007 Sep 12, 2007 11:20:48 PM -   #99 (permalink)
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This post was so beneficial to me. I have some really cool designs that a couple of store owners have been trying to get me to wholesale to them but I have them done in heat press vinyl and its not as profitable doing them like that and i'm in my infancy stage of screen printing so I was looking for a company to do some of my stock designs. Thanks alot Rodney!
 
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Old September 24th, 2007 Sep 24, 2007 5:33:01 PM -   #100 (permalink)
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Rodney,

This thread was a great piece of education for me. I have some questions for you:

1. Have you done any wash tests at all?

2. If so, how many washes have you done and of which transfers?

3. Which transfers have last the longest after washing? (Any follow up pics after washing would be nice to see.)

4. Which ones have not lasted long?

5. For the Rhinestone transfers, did any of the stones fall off after washing?

Thanks!

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Old September 24th, 2007 Sep 24, 2007 11:34:10 PM -   #101 (permalink)
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I know this was directed to Rodney, but I'd say you should check out the major players in vector graphics, like Adobe Illustrator and Corel Draw. I personally use Illustrator, and I do technical sketches in the fashion industry. Most all companies I've worked with use Adobe. Works well with their raster program, Photoshop, as well.
However, if you are on Linux, for instance, Adobe won't work. Or if you're not trying to shell out that kind of money - it IS expensive -- you might want to look at other options.
Inkscape is free, open-source, and shows promise. If I hadn't already gotten hooked on Illustrator and all the shortcuts, etc, and if I didn't need to work on an industry standard, I'd go with that.
In the end, it's all subjective anyway, so your best bet is to try out different programs (demos) for the one that works best for you personally. But of course you should consider what your industry uses (file format issues), price, how well it flows with other programs, etc.
Good luck!
Inkscape is a great program and it works on Linux, Mac, and PC. I too like Adobe stuff better but have been using Inkscape more recently for fun and "It's pretty darn good"!!
 
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Old September 25th, 2007 Sep 25, 2007 7:46:30 PM -   #102 (permalink)
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Inkscape is a great program and it works on Linux, Mac, and PC. I too like Adobe stuff better but have been using Inkscape more recently for fun and "It's pretty darn good"!!
Interesting mention of Inkscape! I downloaded it about a month ago for my PPC Power Mac just to try out, as it's touted to have features matching that of Adobe Illustrator and CorelDraw. I wish Corel would continue supporting the Mac platform for the CorelDraw product. Not sure why it was dropped.

Still waiting on your follow up photos Rodney if you have any.

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Old September 29th, 2007 Sep 29, 2007 4:21:44 AM -   #103 (permalink)
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I love this thread! I used similar process as Rodney by requesting sample packages from the aforementioned companies. In the end, I have narrowed it down two of the companies for myself: Dowling and Transfer Express.

Here is where I need some help and/or thoughts. I am working with 100% cotton. Transfer Express' Groof Proofs (hot splits aren't recommended for cotton by them) when dealing with multi-color (about 5) end up so thick feeling that I am concerned. Have others noticed this? In speaking to them they seem to layer colors so it ends up thick and heavy.

Dowling is cost-wise better and I like the feel better but my wife and I have struggled with customer service some and being new to this we are concerned. Seems like others that have posted on them via search results haven't had that much trouble but I thought I would open it up for any new updates from folks. Anyone have issues with Dowling customer service?

Thanks for any insight. Finally, since I started this long after Rodney I would be REALLY curious if he could answer AdriaticBlue's post on the 24th. Thanks, Rodney.

Once again, thanks, Rodney, for a wonderful post!
 
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Old October 1st, 2007 Oct 1, 2007 6:39:36 AM -   #104 (permalink)
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I believe that wash tests are only an issue with digital, i.e. inkjet or laser, transfers. Plastisol transfers are essentially identical to traditional screenprinting, so unless there is a question whether the ink cured correctly, the print will hold up as long as any traditionally screenprinted shirt.

That assumes, of course, that the pressing was done correctly. I have had to do wash tests on the cold peels I did recently because I was having trouble getting the hang of cold peels. Not all of them were adhering completely and parts of the print were delaminating, so I had to put the samples through several washes to see if there were hidden problems.

I have to admit that I am still having trouble with the cold peels I got from First Edition, but I will post on that subject separately. But to answer your question, from vendor to vendor of plastisol transfers, there should not be an issue that will be revealed by wash tests, which is why Rodney didn't do any.


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1. Have you done any wash tests at all?

2. If so, how many washes have you done and of which transfers?

3. Which transfers have last the longest after washing? (Any follow up pics after washing would be nice to see.)

4. Which ones have not lasted long?

5. For the Rhinestone transfers, did any of the stones fall off after washing?
 
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Old October 1st, 2007 Oct 1, 2007 8:19:25 AM -   #105 (permalink)
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But to answer your question, from vendor to vendor of plastisol transfers, there should not be an issue that will be revealed by wash tests, which is why Rodney didn't do any.
Yes, shouldn't be an issue, but you don't know for sure until you try. You should always do wash tests of any new print product or vendor, regardless of what field you're in (screenprinting, DTG, transfers, etc.).
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