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T-BOT · February 1st, 2007

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Originally Posted by Solmu


	So it's normal for transfer printers to make a product that cracks unless you ask them not to?

It depends on who is doing the Job. And yes, there are transfer makers that will make you Transfers that DO CRACK and look terrible after a few washes.... on jersey knits.

::::::: unfortunately yes transfers DO crack, even when printed on Jersey Knits. So do print jobs done by terrible screen printers (you should know that since you are a screen printer).

Yes, the first thing one should ask a transfer maker before making custom transfers is:

Will these transfers crack and what is their Life span durability after being printed on shirts ?

Again, to rank how good a transfer is look at my earlier post.

I would find it extremely hard to believe that NO one has experienced this CRACKING problem.

Here is a sample printed on a JERSEY knit T-Shirt, washed and worn a few times....look at the CRACK.....may be it was just a Lemon, but still.

T-BOT · February 1st, 2007

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Originally Posted by Annushka


	I'm glad that this post brought that up (especially Lucy). I'd never think this was normal.

I'm sorry too that I need to be the ONE that is stepping up to bring up the Fact that NOT all transfer makers are up to par and produce below stardard goods.

Its these peeps that have given the Tranafer Industry and Transfers in general a bad name. Its been a hard up hill road making people aware that NOT all transfers and transfer makers are the same.

Here is a sample of a Transfers printed on a rib knit Stretched by ONLY 20%. This same transfer would ALSO CRACK printed on Jersey knits.

Have a close look at the CRACKING.

T-BOT · February 1st, 2007

Now on a possitive Note.

here is a Custom Plastisol Transfer that will NOT CRACK. The colors remain Vibrant wash after wash.

Annushka · February 1st, 2007

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Originally Posted by MotoskinGraphix


	I do think Hot-split and hot-peel get mixed around quite regularly.

Thank you, the answer I was looking for!

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	I got some cold peel transfers from FE and didnt like the way they looked after pressing. They were very heavy and glossy. I just played around until I found a way to hot-split them (temp, dwell) and still get good coverage without the heavyness or gloss. The transfers worked perfectly either way

Really? You figured a way to hot-split Cold Peels? That's interesting. Thanks for all the info Dave.

Rodney · February 1st, 2007

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	I'm sorry too that I need to be the ONE that is stepping up to bring up the Fact that NOT all transfer makers are up to par and produce below stardard goods.

Nobody is debating that there are good transfer makers and bad transfer makers, Lucy. I think we all get that.

There are good screen printers and bad screen printers.

There are good embroiderers and there are bad embroiderers.

That's understandable. Any bad printing is going to not last as long as good printing.

Your posts seem to want to scare people into thinking that it's an epidemic or something

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Originally Posted by Solmu


	So it's normal for transfer printers to make a product that cracks unless you ask them not to?

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	It depends on who is doing the Job. And yes, there are transfer makers that will make you Transfers that DO CRACK and look terrible after a few washes.... on jersey knits.

Solmu asked if it was normal, and you seem to be saying yes. I don't think it's normal or the norm for transfer makers to give people transfers that crack. If it was, they wouldn't be in business for long.

EnemyEnterprises · February 1st, 2007

can I get a direct link to First-edition's website?

Jasonda · February 1st, 2007

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Originally Posted by EnemyEnterprises


	can I get a direct link to First-edition's website?

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T-BOT · February 1st, 2007

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Originally Posted by Rodney


	Your posts seem to want to scare people into thinking that it's an epidemic or something Solmu asked if it was *normal*, and you seem to be saying yes. I don't think it's normal or the norm for transfer makers to give people transfers that crack. If it was, they wouldn't be in business for long.

Well, Solmu has Zero experience with transfers and I'm not on his buddy list from the tone of his "word perfect" posts.

But yes Rodney, the sad part is that there is a market for Poor Quality Transfers.... look in the flea markets for example. Anyone with screen print transfer equipment can claim to make transfers....sure they do but they are NOT all up to par in quality.

The point is that if you are a Brand or a start up one and you end up with transfers that CRACK.... it's not a good thing, since quality is your biggest asset that will ensure the longevity of your t-brand biz.

It's a free world (remember that slogan ?

) and everyone can decide for them selfs on what level of quality works best for them.

I can tell you that any Insta, The Wildside, Impulse, X-it, Airwaves and you know who. produce High Quality goods.... these are the only companies I have ever dealt with.

So, if any members can post photOs of transfers with the Quality tests I mentioned earlier here on this thread, then we would all see who ELSE is making NO-CRACKING transfers.

Does this sound reasonable ? ...I mean, the board is all about learning, my self included. ....and sharing helpful info, don't you think ?

Rodney · February 1st, 2007

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	Well, Solmu has Zero experience with transfers and I'm not on his buddy list from the tone of his "word perfect" posts.

There's no competition on who has the most experience with transfers (no need to comment on other people's experience...especially when you don't know it for sure). It's also not about being buddies, just trying to get simple answers to questions

He asked if it was "normal" for transfer makers to make a product that cracks. That's what it seems like you're saying.

If it's not normal, it's OK to say so, but the way your post reads, it almost sounds like it's the "norm" rather than the exception.

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	But yes Rodney, the sad part is that there is a market for Poor Quality Transfers.... look in the flea markets for example. Anyone with screen print transfer equipment can claim to make transfers....sure they do but they are NOT all up to par in quality.

I'm sure there is a market for it, but that's not what is being discussed here

It still doesn't answer the question whether it's "normal" for transfers to crack, or is it the exception of just a bad transfer printer.

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	It's a free world (remember that slogan ? ) and everyone can decide for them selfs on what level of quality works best for them.

Nobody every said anything about wanting to buy poor quality transfers. But you keep making it sound like that's what we're looking for.

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	I can tell you that any Insta, The Wildside, Impulse, X-it, Airwaves and you know who. produce High Quality goods.... these are the only companies I have ever dealt with.

If you haven't dealt with the other companies we're discussing in this thread, why do you keep bringing up the issue of poor quality? They could be the best transfers in the world

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	So, if any members can post photOs of transfers with the Quality tests I mentioned earlier here on this thread, then we would all see who ELSE is making NO-CRACKING transfers. Does this sound reasonable ? ...I mean, the board is all about learning, my self included. ....and sharing helpful info, don't you think ?

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	then we would all see who ELSE is making NO-CRACKING transfers.

I don't think it's a matter of "Guilty' until proven innocent. You can read lots of posts in this forum about people who are happy buying transfers from companies other than the ones you listed above. Isn't that proof enough that the quality is there?

Why do you seem like you're on a crusade to take down other transfer makers? If there's no cracking problems being posted, why stir some up?

There are many posts on this forum from people that shared their experience using several other companies transfers. I've learned a lot from that.

It's like you're trying to get people to doubt their transfer makers before there is a problem. That doesn't sound good coming from another transfer maker.

We all just want information here, but you're not being very clear on who these "cheapo transfer" companies are? I don't see a lot of posts about this cracking problem you mention that is so commonplace.

You're the plastisol transfer expert here, I just want to make sure I'm understanding your claims.

T-BOT · February 1st, 2007

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Originally Posted by Rodney


	I don't see a lot of posts about this cracking problem you mention that is so commonplace. You're the plastisol transfer expert here, I just want to make sure I'm understanding your claims.

I do admit I'm going on and on about CRACKING transfers. But that is the most common Problem people complain about when using transfers. There are numerous threads about Cracking Transfers on the board...... and this Cracking does happen and it exists. Why we are ignoring it on this thread is beyond me.

Enough about CRACKING.

Back to the Rodney Transfer Project. Will you give up Screen Print and change over to Fill on Demand via Plastisol Transfers for your original brand designs ? ...after you test out the transfers of course.

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