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Locked in emulsion...a fix (at least for me)



 
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Old October 1st, 2009 Oct 1, 2009 6:28:48 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Locked in emulsion...a fix (at least for me)

I recently bought out a small screen printing business. With the pile of screens was a dozen locked in screens of various mesh. Most of them appeared to be DXP dual cure and some were the blue emulsion. All of them had the reclaim process started and then left to dry and were really locked in.

I tried soaking them in emulsion remover, tried bleach...heck I even tried paint stripper, acetone, laquer thinner, just about anything I could find. I threw the bad screens in a corner and forgot about them. I even did some searching on the net and in this forum but only found info on how NOT to get into locked in emulsion messes.

A few weeks later I was burning some screens for a job the next day and had issues. The last owners never pressure washed the screens and they were hazed to badly to burn well. I also had run out of de-hazer the day before and wasn't sure what I was going to do...then I had an inspired thought. De-hazer is basically just lye and I had a bottle of drain cleaner, again, basically lye.

I coated the screens and saw the locked in ones in the corner. Just for fun I spread it on one of them and let them sit for 20 or so minutes. I was able to de-haze the screens and when I got to the locked in one it started to clean up!
The next day I grabbed another locked in screen, coated it liberally with the drain cleaner and let it dwell for 40 minutes. I hit it with the small pressure washer and the emulsion came out fairly easy. To make sure it wasn't a fluke I did another 5 screens, 40 minute dwell and again, it pressure washed right out!

I used Publix brand "Drain Cleaner Gel" which uses sodium hypochlorite as it's active ingredient.
Sodium hypochlorite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sorry for being long winded...I hope this helps out some of you that face the same problem I did. You can send checks to...lol


Thoroughly locked in screen...useless!

After 40 minute dwell...usable!

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Old October 1st, 2009 Oct 1, 2009 6:47:22 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Locked in emulsion...a fix (at least for me)

Awesome. Good to know.
 
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Old October 18th, 2010 Oct 18, 2010 6:21:21 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Locked in emulsion...a fix (at least for me)

This works, tried on 4 screens years old
 
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Old December 9th, 2010 Dec 9, 2010 3:40:25 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Locked in emulsion...a fix (at least for me)

Wow, that's awesome..I am new, and didn't realize you couldn't let those sit..Thanks again!
 
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Old December 9th, 2010 Dec 9, 2010 3:45:12 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: Locked in emulsion...a fix (at least for me)

Gonna try this out. You may have just got yourself on the Christmas list. At least a card or something. LOL.
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Old December 9th, 2010 Dec 9, 2010 6:29:04 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Locked in emulsion...a fix (at least for me)

Nice. Gonna have to give this a whirl as well.
 
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thank you very much for the info. somewhere in big shops, small shops, the garage, or even in the frontroom we all have screens that have emulsion locked up.
 
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Did it harm the mesh at all? It's kinda sketchy because you don't know how it's going to react with other chemicals. Good tip though.
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Old December 12th, 2010 Dec 12, 2010 3:11:47 PM -   #9 (permalink)
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Did it harm the mesh at all? It's kinda sketchy because you don't know how it's going to react with other chemicals. Good tip though.
If the emulsion is locked your mesh is gone, so you have very little to loose here.
 
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if it harms the mesh then it's not worth the trouble at all. You'd be losing time.
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if it harms the mesh then it's not worth the trouble at all. You'd be losing time.
PrintsCharming: first response i didnt comment, but now?? are you serious?? locked screen means your only option is to have the frame reMeshed.. so again i ask, what are you talking about harming the mesh?? its a lost screen?
 
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And you can unclog your drain at the same time!!!
 
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PrintsCharming: first response i didnt comment, but now?? are you serious?? locked screen means your only option is to have the frame reMeshed.. so again i ask, what are you talking about harming the mesh?? its a lost screen?
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im pretty sure im the 3rd post.. stating it worked on 4 screens.. locked for years and nothing would break it loose. a few minutes with Draino with sodium hypochlorite and almost perfect and brand new.

printscharming please explain your definition of a locked screen? how do you suggest getting the emulsion out? you must have an answer that does not have the chance at harming mesh, even though draino does nothing but help
 
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It TOTALLY WORKED!! I bought Draino gel, couldn't find the active ingredients anywhere. But let it set for 40 minutes and all pressure washed right out..YOU ROCK!
 
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