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Old August 25th, 2009 Aug 25, 2009 11:04:41 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Waterbased method for brands like Johnny cupcakes??

I was looking throught afew shirts i have and wondered what type of method these brands use, mostly johnny cupcakes (aswel as others).

on alot of his newer shirts, the prints are softer, not so heavy, not discharge as they are not printed 'into' the material so to speak, but are alot softer, so wondered if anyone knw what methods he uses for ppl who know about his brand. i guessed at them being waterbased, alot of his designs are realy bright colourful and bold.

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Default Re: Waterbased method for brands like Johnny cupcakes??

I haven't seen one of his shirts in person, but it seems like the trend across the board is going toward that same feel. Just walking through stores, most screen printed designs I see are very soft, obviously not plastisol.

I'm guessing they are waterbased, but I'm new to screenprinting.
 
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I was looking throught afew shirts i have and wondered what type of method these brands use, mostly johnny cupcakes (aswel as others).

on alot of his newer shirts, the prints are softer, not so heavy, not discharge as they are not printed 'into' the material so to speak, but are alot softer, so wondered if anyone knw what methods he uses for ppl who know about his brand. i guessed at them being waterbased, alot of his designs are realy bright colourful and bold.

thnks guys
I have a couple of t-shirts, and some seem to be just regular plastisol screen printing and others seemed to be water based on discharge prints.

You can use fashion additives to the inks to make them softer if you're doing the printing yourself, or you can just talk with your screen printer to ask him if they know how to soften the print to give it less hand.
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Default Re: Waterbased method for brands like Johnny cupcakes??

He probably does use waterbased and discharge printing for some stuff, but judging by the shirts I've seen my guess is that the majority of it is just plastisol with a soft hand reducer.
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Default Re: Waterbased method for brands like Johnny cupcakes??

thank you guys, i spoke to a printer i been intouch with, october textiles ltd they are called over here in the uk, and they told me obviously waterbased/discharge etc affects the colour so prints wont be as bright as plastisols,but she did say plastisols dont haveto be heavy prints. she told me this:

Water base isn’t too bright either – but plastisol doesn’t have to be heavy design and garment colour will affect this.? Let us have an example of your design and garment spec and we can advise on this.

thenn mentined about the sizes of prints for different sized garments, as iwas unsure if the design is jst printed at 1 size on all sizes of tshirts.

No, it would be exceptional to have a different size of artwork prepared for each garment size and ridiculously expensive – e.g. 2 colour print set up is ?60 – multiplied by 4 sizes = ?240 and our minimum print run of any one design/size of design is 12.? With a single size print you can have a mix of sizes within the 12 minimum run of course.? However, this is entirely down to you at the end of the day.



im guna email her back after you guys helped me out and just ask about using the best method that would keep anice colour and also be soft to the hand, as u guys have said you can add somethin to plastisols to soften them
 
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Many printers can thin down the plastisol inks to the point where they are almost as soft as water base.

Water based inks have come a long way, and with the discharge process, you can and many printers do get very bright and opaque colors out of water base even on dark colored garments with no hand at all since you are basically discharging then repigmenting the fabric...
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Default Re: Waterbased method for brands like Johnny cupcakes??

thanks for that dan, yeah i read after you guys mentioned about using the plastisol inks for a brighter print but thinning them down for a softer feel, which is what i want. and alot of my designs i want to have on various coloured shirts, some will be brighter colours and some will jst be one colour prints on the shirts.

its been tough of late looking into printers here in the uk who can do this, and also the printer i spoke to dont do sample prints, and they have a minimum of 12. i dont knw if postage would be pricey if iwhere having stuff printed out of the country etc.
 
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