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Old August 24th, 2009 Aug 24, 2009 2:24:14 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hello everyone! I have a quick question about the 2 in 1 Emulsion Remover Ink Degrader Dip Tank Solution. I see that Ryonet have it for $106+tax or whatever. Anyways the question is if i buy that dip tank cleaner to clean out my screens do i still need to buy the degreaser + nuetrilizer for it?
 
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Default Re: 1 step ink removal + degrader

Yes, the chemicals that come with the ryonet dip tanks are ink/emulsion removers. You still need to degrease the screens after they are clean, and you may also need to de-haze them as well. It's still worth it though, it cut our clean-up time in half, if not more.
 
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Old August 25th, 2009 Aug 25, 2009 8:57:19 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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Nice so im going to buy a degreaser and dehazer with the sip solution. Also is the screen neutralizer is the same thing as a dehazer?
 
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I believe the neutralizer is a degreaser, not a dehazer. They use all kinds of de- terms so I could be wrong, you can probably get a more definitive answer by speaking to them directly:
 
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Old August 25th, 2009 Aug 25, 2009 9:28:07 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: 1 step ink removal + degrader

If we are washing them without putting in our tank we use these in this order:
1. Ink degrader
2. Emulsion remover
3. Dehazer
4. Degreaser

As Aaron mentioned with a dip tank it removes ink and emulsion, so we usually skip to step 4 after letting them soak for awhile in the tank. Sometimes we have to dehaze though.
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Old August 26th, 2009 Aug 26, 2009 9:37:59 AM -   #6 (permalink)
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^ Good looking out on those cleaning steps that is where i get it confused. I bought a press kit from Ryonet and it came with a emulsion remover, screen cleaner, neutralizer... at least that is what i called it to make it simple for me. They came with their chemical names and all. I don't understand why some companies would just make it easier for some people and print simple names on the labels: Ink Removal, Emulsion Removal, Degrease... etc. Instead they call it stripper-doo, beaner-doo etc.. lol.
 
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Default Re: 1 step ink removal + degrader

I had that problem too when I started using the cleaners, and now my employees are having the same problem. I started to label the spray bottles "ink cleaner", "degreaser", etc. with permanent marker, but all of the chemicals get on the outside of the bottles and the ink comes right off, lol.
 
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If we are washing them without putting in our tank we use these in this order:
1. Ink degrader
2. Emulsion remover
3. Dehazer
4. Degreaser

As Aaron mentioned with a dip tank it removes ink and emulsion, so we usually skip to step 4 after letting them soak for awhile in the tank. Sometimes we have to dehaze though.



So this is the correct steps on how to clean right? I am going to order the Degease and the Dehaze right now.
 
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^ Good looking out on those cleaning steps that is where i get it confused. I bought a press kit from Ryonet and it came with a emulsion remover, screen cleaner, neutralizer... at least that is what i called it to make it simple for me. They came with their chemical names and all. I don't understand why some companies would just make it easier for some people and print simple names on the labels: Ink Removal, Emulsion Removal, Degrease... etc. Instead they call it stripper-doo, beaner-doo etc.. lol.
lmao............i think you spelled it wrong. its actually BEAN•e•doo, not beaner-doo
 
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^^ Lulz you get what im trying to say haha well i ordered my chemicals now im ready to ROLL!
 
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On Ryonet website they have the Mrcro wash 2 dip tank cleaner that comes in 5 gallons. On the description it tells me 1 part to 10 parts water. So i called up and asked one of the working about the mixing and he told me (1) 5 gallon Micro wash + 10 parts water will give me = 15 gallons total. Does that sound right? Or is it 1 gallon to 10 parts water?
 
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5 gal of solution plus 10 gal of water is a 1-2 ratio, not even close to the directions they gave on the website. Either the product is marked wrong (doubt it) or the guy doesn't know his product (highly likely).
 
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^^ Yes i asked the guy and he did not have a clue what the hell he was talking about so he had to put me on hold for 2 minutes and came back and told me (1) 5 gallon will make 15 gallons total. I asked its not 1 gallon to 10 gallon of water and he said no. So i was like ok bye lol. So it is 50 gallon of water to that 5 gallon then?
 
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A 1/10 ratio based on a 5 gal product should yield 55 gallons of total liquid. That is how I interpret the math, but then again, math wasn't my strong point in school so maybe we'll get some brains to chime in.
 
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^^ No that sounds correct to me also but i just wanted to verify. Well i gone ahead and ordered the chemical... now i have to go find me something that will hold 50+ gallons of liquid. I see some big tubs there for $10 lulz.
 
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