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Old June 8th, 2009 Jun 8, 2009 2:59:25 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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hi everyone,

I've been trying to print and have been unsuccessful. when i lift the screen off the pallete and look under I am finding too much ink left on the screen. I am trying my best to keep the squeegee @ a 70/80 degree angle while pulling. I am also trying both a 60 & 70 duro on a 110 mesh with yellow ink on dark green garment. could we lay down some hints as to why I am messing these prints up?

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Old June 8th, 2009 Jun 8, 2009 3:02:21 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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How's your off contact?
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Old June 8th, 2009 Jun 8, 2009 3:58:49 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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always variables in screen printing. try some of these:
1.-Ink could be too thick...try reducing slightly
2.-off contact too low
3.-squeegees too old or worn out...sharpen squeegees, use your 70dur
4.-not enuf adhevsive on pallet....make sure shirt is held down when screen is lifted
5.-printing pressure is not hard enough. you have good squeegee angle, make sure pressure is uniform thru out print stroke. you should be able to see the ink cleared from the design area.
 
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Default Re: Too Much Ink On The Outside Of The Screen

The most common reason for ink being left in the screen that I see is not enough pressure on the squeegee.
 
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Are you saying that there is still ink left in the print area of the screen, or that the ink is bleeding around the edges and sitting on the non-print area on the print side of the screen?

First case would be not enough pressure like jim said, the second case might be too much pressure with the squeegee.
 
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Old June 8th, 2009 Jun 8, 2009 6:01:58 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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on the print side of the screen has too much ink left behind, it bleeds over the edges leaving ink on the front side of the screen, the side down on the pallete, my off contact is a little more than 1/8 of an inch.
 
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tried several more times, the print comes out even on all sides but comes out too light, then at times comes out too think. there is something i am doing wrong where i am allowing ink to pass through the stencil and bleed over the edges on the bottom side. i have to constantly clean after every print. something is definately wrong. i tried light pressure and hard pressure but nothing is coming out right. hmmm
 
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Sounds like your printing technique needs adjusting....you should do a flood stroke on your screen, do one squeegee pull, look at your design, if it seems ink has cleared form the image area then your pressure is ok. Since it is dark shirts you should be printing once only, then flashing, then a second print on top which should yield a nice opake print. Do not keep squeegeeing and squeegeing over and over. All that does is force more ink thru the mesh and might be bleeding out on the bottom of your screen. Just so you know your flood stroke should be very light pressure as you are just trying to spread ink on top of the design.
 
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I am new to printing as well. I have had this same problem with 110 mesh. I moved up to mesh in the 200's and the "problem" went away...
 
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im going to try the print flash print cure. wish me luck...
 
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Default Re: Too Much Ink On The Outside Of The Screen

Try a push stroke. Pushing develops more force and pressure to the squeegie/mesh/t-shirt sandwich. It's also easier to control the downward pressure and lays down more ink in one pass... imho.
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Default Re: Too Much Ink On The Outside Of The Screen

get rid of all 110 screens...there useless.....I wont use 110 any longer...156 is the lowest i print with...but the majority of my screen inventory is 230...man I love 230's......and 305 for process work.....

use 230 ...problem solved

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get rid of all 110 screens...there useless.....I wont use 110 any longer...156 is the lowest i print with...but the majority of my screen inventory is 230...man I love 230's......and 305 for process work.....

use 230 ...problem solved

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I wouldn't go that far. I have no problem with 110's, especially with whites on darks.
 
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Not enough pressure from the beginning. U can avoid too much ink let thru the image by applying more pressure.

AND DON'T PULL TO SLOW. JUST THE RIGHT SPEED. PERHAPS A BIT QUICKER.
 
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Default Re: Too Much Ink On The Outside Of The Screen

hi everyone,

I did it. I lowered the contact to 1/16". and used a flood stroke and tried a push stroke. works out great. print, flash print cure. i appreciate all of your help, thank you!!
 
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