Because of helpful forum pros and overall satisfaction of using Permaset Aqua inks, I've decided to stick with WB instead of going Plastisol.
Now I need some help with choosing a permaset white ink. Im a bit confused as what to start with.
Supercover Print Paste - Huh? what is that? Pearl White - Is this used as a underbase? Applications? Standard White - ??? Supercover First Down White - obviously this is a base white, but can it be used as a all around textile white?? Supercover White - Ok.. whats the difference between this and the one above?? Transparent White - I assume this isnt very opaque.. so what to use it for?
Also, I've read that Permaset Aqua inks dont require an underbase white because it is very opaque.. So do I need to really worry about laying down a white underbase on dark shirts (especially black) at all?
Also, I've read that Permaset Aqua inks dont require an underbase white because it is very opaque.. So do I need to really worry about laying down a white underbase on dark shirts (especially black) at all?
I assume the rest of the permaset supercover ink colors dont require a white base?
All of permasets colors will require an underbase, if not they will still look good and bright and will withstand a wash test but they are not elastic and easily crack before and AFTER proper curing methods are used.... we initially thought the super cover green was bright and beautiful just by itself on a black t-shirt... but it needed an more elastic under coat, preferably the super cover white.... its very elastic and takes adheres well to other colors... we found out the hard way... beautiful prints that cracked easy under a base stretch test...ALWAYS USE A HIGHLY ELASTIC UNDERBASE... Pemasets supercover white works well es[ecially on hoodies and t's
Last edited by AKBDL Print Co.; August 21st, 2010 at 11:15 PM.
Have found this thread really useful, as am thinking of changing to permaset inks for my light on dark printing. One question though, what is the handle like on the supercover inks? I'm guessing that it is slightly thicker than standard water based inks, and that if a supercover is printed on a supercover white base it will presumably feel quite thick: Plastisol thick?
Permaset has perhaps the best white when it comes to H2O whites however since I posted that post we have switched over to Matsui Ink... for one major reason - it doesnt clog the screen almost never does compared to permaset.. we have printed many different H2O projects using both now and the Matsui does just as well. Cure we have found for matsui is 90-30-90.
we made and tested 20 swatches using higher temps up to 375 and down to 330 and used different pressures.
the one that survived the wash and stretch test alone for the matsui RC301 opaque (matsui) was
pressure: firm
press for 90 seconds
let moisture release for 30 seconds
press for an additional 90 seconds.
a bit longer than permasets 50 second cure using a heat press. but the printing process was soo much easier.
once we narrowed down the propper cure time we made some more swatches - printed, cured and washed and dried on high for 40 min. beautiful. slightly heavier hand that a normal color waterbase(closer to a plastisol just not as thick) but your H2O clients will be very pleased.
Help with Permaset WHITE inks 
