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Old August 11th, 2008 Aug 11, 2008 9:03:31 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I've been trying to screen print some labels inside of my shirts. I'm using AA 2001's and I don't have a press. Just been doing it on the kitchen table with a piece of wood as a shirt board. Followed some videos and tutorials about printing. What I've ended up with is bubbly, grainy prints. The ink feels like sandpaper on the skin. What am I doing wrong?
 
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Default re: trying to screen print some labels inside of my shirts with a homemade screen printing press - need help

what kinda inks and what mesh screen do you have?
can u post a pic?
 
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I tried 2 different inks. Union Ink Company and International Coatings. 2 different screens, 110 and 125. 2 different graphics. One small label size (2.5" wide 3.5" tall). One large size, about 8" wide, 8" tall.
 
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how do you keep your screen from moving? make sure the screen isnt to close to the shirt.
 
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My brother holds the screen down. Maybe I'm going about this entirely the wrong way.
 
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maybe you putting to much force on it it has to have to have space between the shirt and screen maybe 1/4 of an inch or less, thought about getting a press?
 
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Maybe a cheap single color tabletop press would do?
 
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yeah that would do for single colors jobs u can always upgrade later if u need. i started with a 4 color 1 pallet press from Silk Screen Printing Supplies.
 
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Default re: trying to screen print some labels inside of my shirts with a homemade screen printing press - need help

If you aren't going to be screenprinting, just buy an inexpensive hat press and have a bunch of plastisol transfers made.
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Default re: trying to screen print some labels inside of my shirts with a homemade screen printing press - need help

Print off contact. Tape a nickel in each corner of the screen, if nothing else.

You can buy ink additives. A curable reducer should soften it up a bit. There's also an additive called 'soft hand', which is exactly what it sounds like, makes the ink feel softer.

A waterbased ink will feel softer, too.

You could also try a 156 mesh. If you want it really soft, use a heavily reduced ink through a 200+ mesh
 
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Default re: trying to screen print some labels inside of my shirts with a homemade screen printing press - need help

Dann hit it on the head for you. You must have space between your shirt and the screen so that the ink drops onto the shirt and is quickly spread smooth with the clean, sharp edge of the squeegee then causing the screen to pop back off the clothing as the squeege passes. You must use a soft hand additive also or you will have a thick plastic icky sheild. Also stir your plastisol for a good 3-5 minutes even before adding soft hand so that your ink is thoroughly mixed (oils seperate) so it is already thinner and smoother. You definatly want to use a 230 or higher mesh screen so that very little ink passes through leaving you with a soft hand and less image show through to the outside back of the shirt. Also make sure your squeegee angle is a clean 45 degree angle, this assist in less ink passing thru and not being mashed through.

Good Luck! Screen Printing after tutorials or classes takes several months practice to get good enough to start then focusing on advancing your skill. Hang in there if it something your interested in.
 
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Default re: trying to screen print some labels inside of my shirts with a homemade screen printing press - need help

I was also going to suggest off-contact.

Another thought is are you using any type of spray tac to hold the shirt to the board?
 
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Default re: trying to screen print some labels inside of my shirts with a homemade screen printing press - need help

I have been doing this for awhile now by popular demand,
soft hand works pretty well but I've been using Rutlands Chino base inks and they are wonderful for labels, I just wish I was running a few less labels these days. It can be a little discouraging running an order with a 6 color front and back that you would normally be finished with and then have to turnaround and print all of those labels.
--What are others charging for this service I am running anywhere from .25-.35 per piece for the labels screened in.
Is this about average?--
 
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Default re: trying to screen print some labels inside of my shirts with a homemade screen printing press - need help

You need to charge as much as any other location. Just because it's small doesn't mean it's less work.

Or you can get one of the dual print tag boards from Action Engineering and print two at a time. Maybe charge half of your normal price then?
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Default Re: trying to screen print some labels inside of my shirts with a homemade screen printing press - need help

I have made my own template that allows me to do 4 at time and it does speed up the process a little bit.
I like that though, "Just because it's small doesn't mean it's less work." I'm going to have to use that line next time I get a price haggler. Thanks...
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