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Old July 2nd, 2008 Jul 2, 2008 11:59:16 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I have a couple of questions about screen printing. I don't think they're general enough to have been covered frequently before, and I couldn't find the answers to them by searching the forums, so hopefully this won't be redundant:

Firstly, how are black-and-white photographs and other single-color images with complex gradients screen printed?

Also, I see a lot of major clothing brands that print tee shirts that seem like they could have only been achieved with screen printing but you can't feel the emulsion at all on the shirt. They seem to have been dyed with the design, but many shirts are too dark to be sublimation. Can someone explain this?
 
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I don't think they're general enough to have been covered frequently before
Guess again. It's just a matter of needing to know enough to know what to search for (which, at first, none of us do).

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Firstly, how are black-and-white photographs and other single-color images with complex gradients screen printed?
Search for 'halftone'

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Also, I see a lot of major clothing brands that print tee shirts that seem like they could have only been achieved with screen printing but you can't feel the emulsion at all on the shirt. They seem to have been dyed with the design, but many shirts are too dark to be sublimation. Can someone explain this?
Search for 'discharge'


(and emulsion covers the screen, so you won't feel it on the shirt; the shirt generally is printed with ink, or occasionally with dye)
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Default Re: a few questions about screen printing techniques

Thanks a lot, discharge printing seems to be exactly what I was looking for. As far as printing gradients; I meant more along the lines of a direct representation of the photograph, like this shirt: 80's Purple - Online Boutique I'm guessing it's a method other than screen printing, but I'm kind of in the dark as to what it could be. Thanks in advance!
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Thanks a lot, discharge printing seems to be exactly what I was looking for. As far as printing gradients; I meant more along the lines of a direct representation of the photograph, like this shirt: 80's Purple - Online Boutique I'm guessing it's a method other than screen printing, but I'm kind of in the dark as to what it could be. Thanks in advance!
More than likely, that was done DTG. It's an inkjet printer you feed shirts into.
 
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As far as printing gradients; I meant more along the lines of a direct representation of the photograph, like this shirt
Like I said, halftones.

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I'm guessing it's a method other than screen printing, but I'm kind of in the dark as to what it could be.
Nope, screenprinting. One colour photos (i.e. black and white, as opposed to four colour process/full colour) are very easy to screenprint.
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More than likely, that was done DTG.
It's impossible to tell without getting a closer look at it (or being familiar with the brand), but it could be either one.
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Default Re: a few questions about screen printing techniques

Alright then; I guess I've been underestimating how capable screen printing really is. Is there any disadvantage as far as price or quality with DTG?
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Alright then; I guess I've been underestimating how capable screen printing really is. Is there any disadvantage as far as price or quality with DTG?
DTG is much more expensive. The machines used are like 7,000$, and the per piece price is generally higher. It's a bit easier, especially for photo realistic images. Pressing 'print' is easier than cmky screen printing.

I guess it depends on what you want to do. If you want to do large runs of shirts, go with screen printing. If you want to print one-off shirts in a mall kiosk, go with DTG.

But yeah, there's very little screen printing can't do. And it's much more versitile than DTG.
 
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Default Re: a few questions about screen printing techniques

yea that one shirt was halftones if it was screenprinted you just print it on a high mesh screen like 305
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