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Old June 30th, 2008 Jun 30, 2008 2:10:14 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hi Everyone,

I have recently purchased a screen printing starter kit and have just started printing first Tee's. I have exposed my screen which is 43T, it is a block of text and I am printing opaque white on a dark 100% cotton fabric. I am am using a water based ink and when I have printed the Tee the ink goes through the Tee and on to my platten. Is this normal practice? The the Screen printed T-Shirts I have purchased from stores in the past do not have visible ink inside them.

I hope this makes sense.

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Old June 30th, 2008 Jun 30, 2008 3:00:29 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: ink going through my Tee and on to the platten

You told us everything except what kind of tee you have. Do you know the brand, model or weight? Where did you get it?

It sounds as if your tee is too thin. I would try a heavier tee.
 
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Old June 30th, 2008 Jun 30, 2008 3:09:55 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: ink going through my Tee and on to the platten

Try less pressure on the squeegie print stroke. A flood stroke before the print stroke and a bit of off contact. I assume 43T is the actual mesh size. What is the mesh count...exmp.110, 165, 230 etc.?
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Old June 30th, 2008 Jun 30, 2008 5:32:06 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: ink going through my Tee and on to the platten

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Hi Everyone,

I have recently purchased a screen printing starter kit and have just started printing first Tee's. I have exposed my screen which is 43T, it is a block of text and I am printing opaque white on a dark 100% cotton fabric. I am am using a water based ink and when I have printed the Tee the ink goes through the Tee and on to my platten. Is this normal practice? The the Screen printed T-Shirts I have purchased from stores in the past do not have visible ink inside them.

I hope this makes sense.

Thanks!
Your shirt can be too thin, your mesh could be too coarse for waterbased inks....could also be your technique.

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Default Re: ink going through my Tee and on to the platten

that's what I was thinking too, that the mesh is too coarse.

And yeah, maybe back off of the pressure on your squeegee and find thicker shirts.
But, if your mesh is too coarse, you're going to push it through your shirt, for sure.
 
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Old July 1st, 2008 Jul 1, 2008 12:20:53 AM -   #6 (permalink)
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I assume 43T is the actual mesh size.
43T is the metric mesh count, equivalent to 110 in imperial measurements.

So there's been three suggestions in the thread so far,

1) Shirt too thin
2) Squeegee technique
3) Mesh too coarse

It's not the mesh. That's not to say you couldn't use a higher count (although with waterbased opaque white it's probably not the best idea), but 43T/110 is perfectly capable of giving a good print. It could be the shirt. It's probably the technique; ink doesn't need to be mashed into the shirt. Could also be a combination of 1 and 2.

Some ink coming through to the platen here and there isn't unusual (the occasional stuff up basically), but it shouldn't be significant, or happening with every shirt.
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Default Re: ink going through my Tee and on to the platten

Thanks Lewis...I wasnt sure about the 43T and made a wrong assumption. What does the T actually stand for?
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What does the T actually stand for?
I've always assumed Thread, but I could be wrong about that 43T = 43 threads per CM, just as 110 is 110 per inch. The T is basically to avoid confusion between metric and imperial (it helps, but obviously it can still be pretty confusing). On the other hand it (T) also indicates monofilament mesh, versus multifilament mesh having counts like 10XX, etc. So I could be wrong about what it stands for.

One of the things I like about it is it also makes it obvious it's a mesh count: if you have 43 written on the side of a screen it could theoretically mean the screen is 43cm long. If it says 43T you know it's referring to the mesh count. Okay that particular scenario is stretching it, but the point is glancing at a page of numbers it stands out.
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Default Re: ink going through my Tee and on to the platten

Cheers for the feedback everyone!

I bought some Tee material to practice before using actual Tee's. Now I have compared both fabrics, the sample does seen lighter than the Tee. So that is defiantly one factor to considered.

I'll also try it again using less pressure and think I may have been a little heavy on the squeegie.

Regarding the mesh, this is a rough guide I was given by my screen supplier and I used the second down 43T:

Here is a guideline to help choose the correct thread count:

36T-Textiles; Heavy Colour (eg Opaque White) and heavy fabric
43T-General Textiles
48T-General Textiles with finer detail
61T-Textiles;smooth and light fabric, Half-Tone, General
77T-Textiles; extreemely light material, Graphics, General
110-140T Textiles; extreemely light, Half tone Graphics, artwork with finer detail

We recommend using 43T for the majority of textile work.

Hope this makes more sense and thanks for the feedback.
 
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