Re: Where can I find cheap screen printing machine & equipment
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Originally Posted by midwaste
I say its garbage because they are cheap, stamped steel presses that have little to no registration capability. I would recommend someone using hinges while they learned the process, and then decide whether they want to stick with it. Better yet, build their own press from the free plans available here.
Better to learn all the variables involved before you get fooled into thinking you are buying a toy that is going to work right out of the box.
you are funny!... then it's not garbage at all. sorry, man... you should have asked help when you can't work those machines in your advantage. i have 6-color press bought from them couple of years ago and i'm still using it until now and no problem at all. i can print spot or CMYK... no problem at all. about that registration THING.... hehehe.... proper burning of screen, good eyes... and strategy.. that's all you need....
sorry, bud....just saying "garbage" right away is not going to help these newbies coming here for help. i am not connected to SSS at all. just so happen that i have one of their machine and it works very well for me.
Re: Where can I find cheap screen printing machine & equipment
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Originally Posted by frankiko
i can print spot or CMYK... no problem at all. about that registration THING.... hehehe.... proper burning of screen, good eyes... and strategy.. that's all you need....
When registering those CMYK jobs, does that "strategy" involve a heavy hammer? Comes in handy to use on your forehead when it doens't quite "tap" those frames into registration for lack of decent micros . . .
Re: Where can I find cheap screen printing machine & equipment
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Originally Posted by A Perfect Pixel
untrue... i think it is YOU that doesn't have registration ability
I have a 1 color and a 4 color press from SSS and have no problems...
you guys rely on your silly micro knobs TOO much...
It's a bit of a stretch to call micros silly. It's a little like calling matches silly when you can start a perfectly good fire with a couple of sticks.
Rarely does a day pass on these forums where someone doesn't start a new thread looking for a good, cheap press. The closest they'll get to that is with a decent used one, and it will only be cheap relative to a new one. People have to buy based on the budget they have, but their hope that cheap presses are as good as professional-grade presses, just cheaper, is misguided. They can also struggle getting jobs into registration without micros, or struggle with presses built so flimsily that they flex when any pressure is placed on them making registration from print to print difficult. How may posts do you see from people stating "Gee, I sure wish I hadn't squandered $5000 on that 6-color press that sets up in minutes and holds registration throughout the print run, when all the smart people are buying $300 presses that are just as good"? I realize that not everyone has the cash to buy new and first rate, but with some research and some patience, they can get a decent used press at a fair price. Too many people get on these forums thinking screenprinting is easy, and the entry price is only a couple of hundred bucks, only to find out that it's hard enough to produce good prints with good equipment, much less with crappy equipment. Those of us who encourage people to look around and find out what really is good instead of making an impulse buy because the price was low do so because we've had our struggles with learning this business and speak from experience.
Re: Where can I find cheap screen printing machine & equipment
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Originally Posted by tpitman
Those of us who encourage people to look around and find out what really is good instead of making an impulse buy because the price was low do so because we've had our struggles with learning this business and speak from experience.
I'm not inexperienced at all. I have run 6/4's with micros and also 12 screen autos...
I just prefer to line up with my eyes and lock down the screen and go...
apparently on this forum, i'm the only one... but I guess that makes me inexperienced?
I got into this same battle in the other thread... from now on, i'll just stay out of them
I'm having no registration issues with the SSS 4 color press... sorry
Re: Where can I find cheap screen printing machine & equipment
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Originally Posted by tpitman
When registering those CMYK jobs, does that "strategy" involve a heavy hammer? Comes in handy to use on your forehead when it doens't quite "tap" those frames into registration for lack of decent micros . . .
heavy hammer not involved at all. like i just said, you should have asked help when you can't work it out. leave the newbies to try this press without micros and have them experience it themselves. don't just say "garbage" at things without explaining it. it's misleading, man.
ok, i'm done with this and i apologize to everybody. peace!
Last edited by frankiko; July 15th, 2008 at 12:26 PM.
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