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Old February 9th, 2008 Feb 9, 2008 2:18:38 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Is it possible to print this simple design with a one color press?

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Old February 9th, 2008 Feb 9, 2008 8:51:19 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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I suppose if you can make your 1 color press print a 2 color design then it must be the Houdini press.

The simple answer is no, not as it is.
 
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Old February 9th, 2008 Feb 9, 2008 9:08:41 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Do you need a two color press to print this design

Nope, you need a two color print for a two color design.
 
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Old February 9th, 2008 Feb 9, 2008 9:32:59 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Do you need a two color press to print this design

Wow Mike! Thanks for the help. Can you tell me where one might find this Houdini press that you speak of?
 
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Default Re: Do you need a two color press to print this design

I am a bit puzzled here as i didn't know presses printed

lol ok misread post hehe *hits self on head* it was screen printing well my excuse is its 6am and not been to bed yet
 
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Old February 9th, 2008 Feb 9, 2008 10:06:36 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Do you need a two color press to print this design

nvus, yes, I am the sole distributor for such fine products. And if you buy one within the next ten minutes you'll also receive the Jinsu Squeege at no extra charge! And we'll also throw in a gallon of hamster milk with it all.
 
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Default Re: Do you need a two color press to print this design

You could do that in cut vinyl as well and more than likely, less expensive as well.
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Old February 9th, 2008 Feb 9, 2008 10:13:15 PM -   #8 (permalink)
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And we'll also throw in a gallon of hamster milk with it all.
Hmm.. tell me more about this 'hamster milk' . Im intrigued.
 
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Hmm.. tell me more about this 'hamster milk' . Im intrigued.
Oh c'mon, you've had to have heard about Hamster Milk already! It's all the rage at your local Starschmucks. It's used in making the Hamster Chai Latte.

Sheesh, and I thought I was a bit thick in the noggin!
 
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Default Re: Do you need a two color press to print this design

Please send plans for Houdini press.
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Default Re: Do you need a two color press to print this design

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Is it possible to print this simple design with a one color press?

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It is possible. You would need to leave the shirts on a removeable platen. You need some manner of indexing the platens. One platen for each shirt printed.

I have seen this in action. It requires some skill to make it work...

This used hinged clamps mounted to a plywood bench. Three wooden dowels in the bench caught two edges and a corner of the platen.

Load a shirt. Carefully place platen into pin registeration pegs. Ensure that shirt is not in the way underneath or wadded up on a peg. Print. Remove to next station and repeat or else print all first color then load second screen and add second color to all shirts.

You can use a single color press to simply print screened transfers. However, this requires a heat press and a conveyor dryer.

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Default Re: Do you need a two color press to print this design

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Is it possible to print this simple design with a one color press?

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The simple answer is yes, It can be done but it is not easy and would be very time consuming. Still requires two screens used individually on a single press. The key is registering the second screen.
 
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Default Re: Do you need a two color press to print this design

I am not an expert on screen printing...ain't ever going to pull a squeeze again but..if you mean can you do this this design one screen at a time...then yes you can. The 'press a print' screen press uses one screen at a time and has a very good registration system to align the second screen. I am sure there are other systems, but this is the only one I have seen in operation
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Old February 14th, 2008 Feb 14, 2008 12:32:46 PM -   #14 (permalink)
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Default Re: Do you need a two color press to print this design

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The 'press a print' screen press uses one screen at a time and has a very good registration system to align the second screen.
Then that make the "press a print" press a multicoloured press not a one colour press. Each screen of the "Press A Print" has registration pins and is equal to the function of a print head on a rotary press. More screens with pins.... more colours. It is on the otherhand definitely a one station press where you print each shirt all colours before moving on to the next shirt.

On a traditional single colour stationary press you'd have to change the screen and leave the shirt in place then line the 2nd screen up to the image on the shirt. I'd only do this on really small volumes because I wouldn't pull the shirt off the platen until I was done with it. Otherwise you have to line up both the shirt and the screen not just the screen. What a pain that would be anyway you look at it. Your best investing in a cheap multicolour benchtop press say from AWI for about $800 without micro registration.


I just had an idea. similar to the Vastex jersey numbering system allow multiple screens on a sliding track which you could slide back and forth to switch screens as required. Make this something that can be placed in any manual press. Of course the device weight and sprint tension would become an issue. Oh well it was just an idea.
 
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Default Re: Do you need a two color press to print this design

All you need is a way to register the artwork on the screens and then the screens to the printing table. Screen printing has been around for alot longer than the modern printing presses.

I saw a video on YouTube (is there video anywhere else?) that showed a Chinese group moving screens from table to table by hand to get multi-color prints.
 
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