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brent · January 15th, 2008

I've really enjoyed playing with discharge, but it can be so finicky. I'm hoping that those of us who do discharge printing can share our notes on what brands and specific colors of those brands discharge or don't discharge well.
Also state the brand of discharge you use. (I'm not sure how much impact different types of discharge have on the same garment. Fill me in if you know.)

I use Matsui waterbased discharge, great stuff.

Gildan 2000/g200;
Discharges well:
Olive
Black
Navy
Brown
Doesn't discharge well:
Purple (becomes grayish with a hint of blue)

American Apparel 2001;
Discharges well:
Slate
Black
Army
Olive
Doesn't discharge well:
Mint
Baby Blue

Jerzees 363;
Black doesn't discharge super well, not as brightly as Gildan, but has more of a light to medium-light tan result.

That's all I've tried that I can think of, If you have discharge experience, please share your results, as we can all learn from each other!

Unik Ink · May 23rd, 2008

I would like to revive this thread. I have customers that ask what shirts that they should order for discharge prints, and I can't give them much advice.

Does
Gildan 2000- red, cardinal red

Does not
Hanes Beefy-T- Black

brent · May 23rd, 2008

You had success with 2000 Red? I've discharged AA2001 Red and Green and neither did very well. Red became pinkish and green became yellowish. The client liked it but it definitely wasn't a 100% discharge result.
Forest 2000 discharges really nicely.

Other discharge printers please talk about some of your results!

Unik Ink · May 23rd, 2008

Yeah, there was a slight red/pink hue to the print, but overall it turned out good.

brent · May 23rd, 2008

That looks awesome. It was on a 2000 red? Straight discharge and then a spot color?
For the record, what discharge ink do you use? I use Matsui DSPS.

Steelheader100 · May 23rd, 2008

I use Matsui discharge and so far it works well on

American Apparel - Black
- Charcoal gray

Gildan 2000 - Black
- ( Red sort of worked for us but the discharge white came out kinda pink)

Bella 8701 ladies - Brown

Anvil Organic - Navy
- Charcoal Gray
- Olive

I also tried it on District Threads black and it mostly worked but it did not discharge quite as well as the American Apparel.

I've had no luck with Royal or Purple of any brand yet.
I'm sure it must work on many more but that's what I've tried so far. Good idea for a thread.

brent · May 23rd, 2008

John- how affective was the discharge on black 2000? Last time I did it, It was a light tan, not an off white. I thought I remembered 2000 black discharging very well, so I'm not sure if I just didn't mix it strong enough...
Yellow pigmented discharge on black 2000 looks awesome. this is what I'm wearing right now:

LitPrinter · May 24th, 2008

Royal blue t-shirt color discharges wery bad and it is not important what brand of t-shirts or ink You use. It is for specific structure of cotton dye, royal blue dyestuff are very stable and discharge paste can't break it. Also very pure discharge effect are on turkis color. Black (and all other colors) discharges very well if fabric before dyeing were bleached (just ask it for producer)and it is dyed with reactive dyestuff.

korey · May 24th, 2008

The shirt needs to be dyed with fiber reactive dye. Then it will discharge fine.
You can't say this shirt does and this shirt doesn't. Ask the company if they use reactive or direct dyes. Direct won't discharge.

Also, worth a mentioned is Union Inks Plasticharge. Mixes with regular plastisol so it will discharge and doesn't smell as bad as other stuff.

Steelheader100 · May 24th, 2008

The Gildan black actually discharged pretty well. Our white came out good on it but that has a lot of pigment in it. I did some yellow pigmented discharge base on them too and it looked pretty bright. I did grab an old black Gildan to do a shop sample with and it did not discharge at all, not even a little bit. Just a wierd one I guess because the rest of the job was great.

Unik Ink · May 24th, 2008

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Originally Posted by korey


	The shirt needs to be dyed with fiber reactive dye. Then it will discharge fine. You can't say this shirt does and this shirt doesn't. Ask the company if they use reactive or direct dyes. Direct won't discharge. Also, worth a mentioned is Union Inks Plasticharge. Mixes with regular plastisol so it will discharge and doesn't smell as bad as other stuff.

That's what I used in the pic above on the red Gildan 2000. It was Union Ink plasticharge mixed with an off white, and then black plastisol.

studog79 · May 24th, 2008

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Originally Posted by brent


	You had success with 2000 Red?

We have no problem getting these white using Wilflex Super White Discharge NF.

JayJaySerious · May 27th, 2008

We do mostly discharge ink or paste. We've used the discharge ink from Standard Screen (Standard Screen Supply Corp. | Manufacturer of Holden's Screen Printing Supplies) here in NYC and we've used the discharge paste from Dharma Trading (www.dharmatrading.com).

I want to try Matsui discharge inks. Where do you order them?

We've had our best results from Hanes Heavyweight and Fashion tees (Fashion tees discharged the best), Gildan were ok, Jerzees were ok. We did a few discharge prints on Alternative Destroyed tees and they came out beautiful. We had some unexpected but nice results on some Bella heather tees.

brent · May 28th, 2008

JayJay- I order Matsui discharge and everything else from Screen Printing Equipment, Supplies, Service & Support - Westix Online

I did a royal blue yesterday because my customer provided a few before I had a chance to tell them that I heard that they don't discharge well. It's bizarre, they discharged to dark gray! I think it's kind of cool, and I hope he does too. I only did 6 royal blues out of 100 shirts for his discharge order.

I'm doing some Hanes ladies tank tops and they are discharging well. I wish Gildan 2000/5000 black discharged brighter so it would be better for use as an underbase.