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Old May 14th, 2006 May 14, 2006 12:57:34 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Two Quick Questions...

I started my own clothing label about a year ago and am now to the point I need to start getting into retail shops instead of trying to sell everything myself.

Selling to retail shops kills my profit and I need to get the shirts for less, how much should I be paying for 30 colored gildan ultra cotton (or equivalent) with a 1 color print in 1 location? I would think that to order the shirts as direct as I can then have them printed would be cheaper, but with only 30 at a time the 2 extra shipping costs kill it.

Also, I realize 30 is a ridiculously low number, but that's what I need to do for now. I would like to use my own labels, but can't with such a small number, Is there an easy way to remove the existing tags? I'd like to use my own iron on labels.

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Old May 15th, 2006 May 15, 2006 12:26:29 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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The pricing for that quantity would vary a bit from printer to printer. I would say for a quantity of 30, you'd probably be looking at $7-$9 per shirt (that's the garment and the printing).

I don't think you'd get much better pricing buying the t-shirts yourself and taking them to the printer, but the best way to find out would be to contact a few printers and get some estimates both ways.

Some printers will remove the tags and relabel for you for a small fee. Just ask them.

There are also a few past threads about removing tags that you might be able to find using the forum search.
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Old May 15th, 2006 May 15, 2006 6:52:31 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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There isn't an easy way to remove tages unless you like a jagged tag remnant (a la threadless) or re-sew the hole. Replacing tags with a new tag is actually easier than removing just the old tag neatly.
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Old May 15th, 2006 May 15, 2006 7:07:44 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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You need to be heatpressing thermoflex plus on a .98 cent garment for a single colored design. Forget that $7-9 sillyness. Look at what you do as far as production cost and conform to the process that is most beneficial to you.
 
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You need to be heatpressing thermoflex plus on a .98 cent garment for a single colored design. Forget that $7-9 sillyness. Look at what you do as far as production cost and conform to the process that is most beneficial to you.
If you divide the price of a heatpress, printer, and ink over 30 shirts I suspect that'd you'd be paying nearer $30 a shirt....

98 cent garment? Even the thought of it makes me shudder with images of badly fitted paper-thin cotton sacks made by 8 years olds being whipped....
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He specified a brand or an identicle product and a one color design with his own label in business for a year. Please dont assume he is stupid.....economically for blk and wht one color designs in a short run, heatpress thermoflex is ideal. Do you disagree?
 
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I just bought anvil t-shirts for .99 last week. Anvil is my favorite...excellent quality. Im looking at the prices of the screen printer I have used here.

For 30 shirts it would be about 3.00 a shirt. Then the blank is about 1.50 - 2.00 on average.

7.00-9.00 is too expensive I think, although prices may be more expensive in california than in Philly.
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He specified a brand or an identicle product and a one color design with his own label in business for a year. Please dont assume he is stupid.....economically for blk and wht one color designs in a short run, heatpress thermoflex is ideal. Do you disagree?

I certainly wasn't suggesting he's stupid, and I'm not sure how you came to such a conclusion.

I presume Rodney's advice is for a screenprinted garment, done externally. For runs of 30, on Gildan, his price seems pretty on the mark.

It also seems to be what bryan was asking about.
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I pay less than a buck for wht shirts every time. Heatpress vinyl in Blk or wht runs about $7 a yard. I can cut anything in one color you can dream of...I see no comparison with lettering and screenprinting. I love the freedom but see the limitations as well. I know my market and its limitations. I love the black and white....thats my customer!!!!!
 
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I pay less than a buck for wht shirts every time. Heatpress vinyl in Blk or wht runs about $7 a yard. I can cut anything in one color you can dream of...I see no comparison with lettering and screenprinting. I love the freedom but see the limitations as well. I know my market and its limitations. I love the black and white....thats my customer!!!!!
Bryan is:

1) Screenprinting
2) Using quality coloured shirts
3) Making a fashion item
4) Probably printing in colour
5) Making a premium product to sell at retail, in shops.
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You are correct and I was wrong...he mentioned screen printing and his numbers were around $5 a shirt. I apologize fore my sillyness!!!

He didnt say:

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using quality shirts...he named his shirt.
Making a fashion item??? what the f is it you are looking for????
He said he was printing in one color...did ya see that????
The premion product must have just skated by me...think I was lost in the re tagging nitemare!!!!!

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You are correct and I was wrong...he mentioned screen printing and his numbers were around $5 a shirt. I apologize fore my sillyness!!!
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Where is the screen cost...and set up or does your screener throw that in for for free on a 30 shirt order?
 
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its all numbers for sure and I love screenprint...I am heading that way for my more constant units.....but the short custom run is always gonna be heatpress...esspecially on a blk shirt!!!!
 
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Hi Bryan,

Do you have a heat press? If so here's some suggestions that may save you tremendously,

1.) Get your Designs created as Screenprinted Heat Transfers

2.) Buy a box of shirts in various sizes and "press the designs on the shirts" as you get orders for it.

This means if you have say 4 different designs you could buy a quantity of the designs as heat transfers. As you get orders from the retail establishments you "press on those designs" and ship/deliver them.

Here's why I suggest it...

When i started out doing t-shirts I pressed up all types of various designs to take to my setup at the mall during mom's day, father's day and xmas. I kept lugging the unsold one's back and forth home. To date I still have "some of those designs on t-shirts that didn't sell". It's been since 1997 so my money went to waste on the "shirts & designs" i didn't sell.

So I decided to "press" the designs "as they were ordered". This "saved me" because "i bought a box of shirts in various sizes" and as people ordered I "heat pressed" the design "onto the garment". So when i left the mall i was lugging home "blanks" that could be used when I got other orders instead of "printed shirts that may or may not sell".

If a design didn't sell I was only out of the cost of the "heat transfer" not the shirt/design combined.

SUGGESTION 2:

1.) Look and find out if you have "a shirt company" near you. That way you can "pick up your shirts" or "save on shipping".

For me I order all my items from suppliers "close to me". When i need shirts for a "large order" instead of paying shipping I drive about "45 minutes" to get them because it's cheaper than paying to have them shipped. For my other supplies I order from the closest company to me although sometimes their cost may be a few cents more because "the saving" i incur on shipping makes it more economical and I can "get my items" faster than say if I ordered way across the map.
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