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Old September 19th, 2007 Sep 19, 2007 4:31:39 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Ok I have searched everyone in my city for a screen printer who wants to take a chance on new ways of printing. Everyone seems to be caught up with doing the boring ole school logos crap & family reunion t shirts. The closest city that may have some screen printers who would want to take a chance on my designs is in Austin Texas(4 hours away from where im at).

I have a 4 color mini press laying around in my den so im thinking of screening my designs on my own. I worked at a Screen print shop for 2 years as a graphic designer. I pretty much know what I need but somethings I need to be caught up on.

BELOW IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE SHIRTS


Thats an example of where im going with my line, seems too tuff for locals to wanna take on.

Things I need help with.

Which monochrome Printer that will print maximum 13x24 film.. will I need.

Paper for positives, where can I get either some vellum or transperacy sheets for the prints.

2. Extra Large Plattens....where can I score some.

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Old September 19th, 2007 Sep 19, 2007 5:33:22 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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I don't see a major problem here. depending on the brand of the machine it shouldn't be that big of a problem getting or making the platens that are a longer length. The only other hurdle you have to overcome is your local printers - I'm guessing - probably only have machines that have the back clamping system for their screens. If they have the side clamps they could slide some of the screens so they sit higher in the holders to compensate for the longer length of the print.
I hope I was able to write what I'm trying to say. We've done it before and have had excellent success this way. If you talk to your local guys I'm sure they could solve this for you. Good luck in your new venture.
 
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Old September 20th, 2007 Sep 20, 2007 4:25:53 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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The problem you're running into is that most printers aren't setup to print a job that big. It'll take large screens and an extra long platen to print that.
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Old September 20th, 2007 Sep 20, 2007 8:01:36 AM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: I Guess Ill do it on my own.

I'm with Phillip on this. Most printers will not and do not have the ability to print that large. my largest printing area with my auto is 15 by about 16 maybe 17.

Honestly in my 11+ years for printing i have never even printed a design that large. These prints are just way too much and everyone seems to want to print their designs that way./ I personally wouldn't wear anything with a print that large .02
 
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Old September 20th, 2007 Sep 20, 2007 8:33:38 AM -   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: I Guess Ill do it on my own.

Hekt, I tried to PM you, but your PM limit isn't allowing any more. PM me with your email addy or post it.
 
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Old September 20th, 2007 Sep 20, 2007 8:36:24 AM -   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: I Guess Ill do it on my own.

hekt,

Cool shirt. It is definitely unique and stands out from the rest. You should continue to search for screenprinters even if they're outside of your hometown. The fact is you are a customer who wants a task done and there has to be someone out there who wants your business. You can try youdesignit.com and customink.com to see what they say.

Good luck.

P.S. Some screenprinters will even give you free shipping.
 
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Old September 20th, 2007 Sep 20, 2007 9:25:09 AM -   #7 (permalink)
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Hekt. I have tried everywhere to get waterbased printing done and no one will. It's the same old boring plastisol. sucks!!!
 
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Old September 21st, 2007 Sep 21, 2007 12:00:57 PM -   #8 (permalink)
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Default Re: I Guess Ill do it on my own.

wow thanks for all the input

Big E, Thats what im thinking it shouldn't be that hard to make or a buy a larger platten... I even told the shops I would be glad to pay for the larger platen & larger squeegies. I just think theyre all too old or lazy to try something new.

Neato, Large Screens & Large Platens shouldnt be that hard to come by.

Fluid, you wouldn't wear it...but theres a huge sub culture of young adults who like to spend money on abnormal stuff like that. (Im one of them lol)

Teddy, I sent you a private message & my email is [email address] if your interested.

Liefde, I know man I wish more people thought like that. & thanks for the links I checked out both.

Swk, whats the difference in plastisol & waterbased? The thickness of the ink? Cause I was thinking I would want this done on a real tight mesh so the ink doesnt feel bulky.
 
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yeah...Plastisol can be gunky and when you use a lower mesh, you lose color. I like water based because you barely feel it and it's retro. Unfortunately, no one will do it unless you have a huge order.sucks!!! good luck
 
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Old September 26th, 2007 Sep 26, 2007 10:57:28 AM -   #10 (permalink)
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yeah...Plastisol can be gunky and when you use a lower mesh, you lose color. I like water based because you barely feel it and it's retro. Unfortunately, no one will do it unless you have a huge order.sucks!!! good luck
You can use reducer with plastisol inks to get the retro feel and you don't have the trouble of working with waterbased. Just a heads up.
 
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Haven't found a printer yet that uses plastisol and can make it feel retro soft. We've tried a numerous....
 
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Hey Hekt,

How about an update. Is your project moving forward?
 
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Default Re: I Guess Ill do it on my own.

and what are the troubles of using water based?
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Old September 26th, 2007 Sep 26, 2007 1:25:27 PM -   #14 (permalink)
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Default Re: I Guess Ill do it on my own.

Depends on what you call "troubles."

First off, it requires a different emulsion from what most printers use. Most emulsion dissolves in water, or a water solution. Second, the ink is sort of like paint, it dries out if left in the screen. Not a huge issue, it's better than it used to be. Third, it requires an oven with forced air. Most shops are set up to print one or the other, generally, not both.

Rutland used to have a water/plastisol blend that I heard was pretty good. I think they dropped it. You should try the ultrasoft line from Union. It's pretty kickin.' You will not really get the vintage feel from plastisol. Too much sits on top as opposed to soaking in like waterbased. You can come pretty close though. The Ultrasoft Sienna is a great color BTW.
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Old September 26th, 2007 Sep 26, 2007 10:22:31 PM -   #15 (permalink)
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Default Re: I Guess Ill do it on my own.

If you find a company with the right equipment (oversized screens, belt printers), they can do the job for you.

You just have to keep searching and follow leads:
all over printing sources - screen printing print all-over the t-shirt with a belt screen printer

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