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I Love Screenprinting...but hate emulsion... What can I do?



 
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Old June 28th, 2007 Jun 28, 2007 5:22:13 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default I Love Screenprinting...but hate emulsion... What can I do?

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I have been thinking about this for a while but dont know what alternatives are there. I love scrennprinted shirts, how the look and feel and last, etc., but I dont like the messy part of applying the emulsion and the reclaiming the frame, just too time consuming and messy.
Ok there are other options like Vinyl heat trasnfers, or maybe hiring somebody to make the screenprinting for me, there are printer transfers, there is also EZ Screen.

The thing is that I want to do screenprinting, I want to do it myself, but dont want to deal with emulsion.

What can I do???

***What is capillary film?***

Thanx

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Old June 28th, 2007 Jun 28, 2007 7:02:28 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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What is capillary film?
Essentially it's emulsion on a carrier sheet. You'll still have the mess of washing out the image, reclaiming, etc. but it eliminates (most of) the mess of coating, scoop coaters, etc.
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Old June 28th, 2007 Jun 28, 2007 7:34:33 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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How do you "stick" , place it or hold it to the frame? Do I need a metal frame? I tried looking on the net, but I stil have questions... Nothing is clear. I tried youtube to see a video but I found nothing...
 
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I've never used it, sorry. Some here have though, so someone will be able to answer your question properly.

As far as I know you just prep (wet) the screen and apply the film as a sheet to the screen with a squeegee, then let it dry and proceed as normal.
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Old June 28th, 2007 Jun 28, 2007 8:58:06 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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Is film more expensive consumables then emulsion?
 
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Old June 28th, 2007 Jun 28, 2007 11:49:53 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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I only use capillary film, no emulsion. I think it's much easier, faster, and produces better screens, for me. Yes, it's more expensive than liquid emulsions. It costs around $2-$3 per screen. But if you are doing a $300 job, that is not much.

You roll the film around a stick, dull side facing out. You degrease your screen, then roll the film on the screen while it's still wet. I use a product calls Ulano Mesh Prep #25 after degreasing so that the screen will hold more water making the film adhere better.

Once it dries, you are ready to expose. No mess. No waiting for screen to dry after degreasing. No worry about contaminating the screen with dust while its drying. No pinholes. No worries about how many coats to put on each side of the screen. No cleaning the scoop coater. And the images come out great.
 
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THANX RUSTY, THAT IS INTERESTING.
Do you have pics of the frame r the procedure?
After you are done, what do you do? Reclaim like usual, is ther anohe method? The film is one time se right? Or there is a way to take it of and store it? Thanx
 
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THANX RUSTY, THAT IS INTERESTING.
Do you have pics of the frame r the procedure?
After you are done, what do you do? Reclaim like usual, is ther anohe method? The film is one time se right? Or there is a way to take it of and store it? Thanx
No I don't have any pics. You just use regular frames, wood, aluminum or retensionable. Yes, you reclaim like usual with emulsion remover. Yes, the film is one time use.
 
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Thanx Rusty, very useful and informative info
 
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Silk Screening Supplies .com, screen printing equipment, silk screen printing kits
sales coated screens or they will even burn them for you. but you have to wash them out when your done.
 
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hi rusty,
is this capillary film similar to the ez photo film, or am i complety out of touch
rgds ino
 
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hi rusty,
is this capillary film similar to the ez photo film, or am i complety out of touch
rgds ino
Sorry, I'm not familiar with EZ Photo flim.
 
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Default Re: I Love Screenprinting...but hate emulsion... What can I do?

hey man... i just got into the stuff myself, check out my posts theres one related theres a guy here who works for "ulano" he posted some links to download videos may wanna try utube also, it seems rael easy but bums me out that most places ive called around who carry it dont really recommend it, i figured it would be super easy, anyway look for my posts its right there video iskinda big tho
 
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btw let me know how it goes and what u think about it if its easy it certainly looks so but im barely starting dont wanna commit i wrote these notes for personal use about the vid if it helps


use ulano cfm-4
mesh 90t (or 230t in english system)
if sinthetic mesh do abrading
water the framed mesh once its tight on print side
scrub ulano no2 microgrit and scrub with bristle brush

while still wet from degrease adhere the filmwith no25 meshprep both sides give 2 min rinse use for 2 hours
now use yellow safe light no uv
cut cdf roll to sheet

always use degreasing ulano no3 degreaser with brush leave on 2 min n rinse
 
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Whenever You Are Ready To Try This ,we Have A Roll Of It At The Lab. We Just Have To Cut It With A Plotter And Since You Design In Vectors It Shouldnt Be Any Problem........love You Joe
 
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