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Old May 28th, 2007 May 28, 2007 5:06:04 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default how can i print over the seam?

hey,
i got asked by a band if i could print on the upper right side of a shirt, and on the right sleeve. the design would go over the seam. ive seen this on some newer band shirts. does anyone know if there are any tricks to this, before i tell them i can print this?
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Default Re: how can i print over the seam?

Your best bet is to use a discharge base. Waterbased inks may work well yet I don't print with them so I cannot say for sure. Regular plasticol tends to build up considerably causing all sorts of printing issues. We have had great success with discharge inks
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Old May 29th, 2007 May 29, 2007 10:04:49 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: how can i print over the seam?

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Your best bet is to use a discharge base. Waterbased inks may work well yet I don't print with them so I cannot say for sure.
Waterbased inks will have buildup issues too. You can do it, but you'll likely get imperfect results. I haven't used discharge base, but from what I've heard you and others say about it it definitely sounds like the best option for this kind of work.
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Default Re: how can i print over the seam?

Today we printed an order with the print running over the collar and of the shirt. We used the Wilflex fashion Soft base with PC pigments added. You can use plasticol inks with the fashion soft base. No issues with the seams. We used a 196 mesh and the prints turned out great. After the first wash the print will be barely noticeable as well.
http://www.polyone.com/bizunit/inks/...Soft%20PIB.pdf
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Default Re: how can i print over the seam?

For the shoulder print, how would you get the shirt on the platen in position for that type of coverage?

Richard, what is PC pigments?
 
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Default Re: how can i print over the seam?

Pigments color matching system. Using straight pigments to color the bases or mix for colors.

Depends on how the print is actually going to print on the shirt. If a normal load on the palette off set to one side will not work you'll need to build a jig.
Action engineering sells all sorts of custom palettes that might fit the bill.
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Default Re: how can i print over the seam?

Boy those guys think very highly of their products. And I thought $70 was expensive for the pallets I have to buy.
 
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Boy those guys think very highly of their products. And I thought $70 was expensive for the pallets I have to buy.
Yes but they are good quality.

Sometimes you have to spend money to make money
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Default Re: how can i print over the seam?

thanks for the advice!!
 
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Default Re: how can i print over the seam?

My palettes are $150-$175. I hear ya but you gotta have them.

At least you only buy them once maybe you can make your own using the others as viauals
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Default Re: how can i print over the seam?

Someone showed me a trick a while back that pretty much makes a channel like Action Engineering has on their pallets for pretty cheap.

Just grab one of those foam poster boards from walmart... they run a couple bucks. Lay it on your existing platten and mark out where the channel needs to go and mark the edges of your platten. Then get a box cutter and go to work. I would only leave a 1/4 inch gap or so for the seam to fit in. Then just adjust your off contact and print away.

Then your shirt will be in the same place every time. It seems to work pretty well even with plastisol inks.

Hope this helps.
 
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Default Re: how can i print over the seam?

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Someone showed me a trick a while back that pretty much makes a channel like Action Engineering has on their pallets for pretty cheap.

Just grab one of those foam poster boards from walmart... they run a couple bucks. Lay it on your existing platten and mark out where the channel needs to go and mark the edges of your platten. Then get a box cutter and go to work. I would only leave a 1/4 inch gap or so for the seam to fit in. Then just adjust your off contact and print away.

Then your shirt will be in the same place every time. It seems to work pretty well even with plastisol inks.

Hope this helps.

yes this does work very well, i watched a video on it.

you can also use a piece of cardboard ;]
 
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Default Re: how can i print over the seam?

Travis, Do you know the site to watch the video?
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Travis, Do you know the site to watch the video?
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it was a video i bought off silkscreeningsupplies.com

its their specialty screenprinting DVD


its got some good tips in the video and isnt that expensive

 
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Default Re: how can i print over the seam?

I will never buy a Palette for my machine. I burned up my old one by mistake. (left the flashcure on and it burned a hole right through) anyhow that's another story. Draw out the desired shape you need on a wood the same thickness as the original palettes and cut out with a jig saw. stick laminate on the top, holes to bottom and that's it. It cost me about $20 bucks per board if so much.
 
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