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Old April 25th, 2007 Apr 25, 2007 10:20:56 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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i bought a one color station a few days ago but now im wondering if i made the right buy... the reason why i bought the one color was just to start practicing and getting a hang of it... and my low budget of course.

anyways, is this good for multi colors? (3-4 colors)
they guy i bought the machine from said that i had to cure one color in order to start adding another.. is this true? and is there an easier way to do it?

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Old April 26th, 2007 Apr 26, 2007 12:34:56 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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i bought a one color station a few days ago but now im wondering if i made the right buy... the reason why i bought the one color was just to start practicing and getting a hang of it... and my low budget of course.

anyways, is this good for multi colors? (3-4 colors)
they guy i bought the machine from said that i had to cure one color in order to start adding another.. is this true? and is there an easier way to do it?

Thankz in advance.
Not really. But it sounds like it is alright for now or if your not in the business yet and just want to mess around with it. Registering each color/screen is the hard part each time. You do not cure each color before adding another, you can flash but don't cure all the way, otherwise the next ink will have trouble sticking. If your designs don't touch each other, you can also print wet on wet.
 
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Old April 26th, 2007 Apr 26, 2007 1:11:02 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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anyways, is this good for multi colors? (3-4 colors)
Heck no.

You can do multi-colour prints, but (obviously!) it's not designed for it. If you try and do anything tightly registered it will be time consuming and error prone. If you want to do loosely registered multi-colour prints that's definitely possible. You'll need to be smart with your artwork, because trying to print more than one colour on a one colour jig, you're going to have a lot of limitations on what you can print.

Learn to love one colour prints - they're the staple of t-shirt design, and not as lowly as some people think
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Old April 26th, 2007 Apr 26, 2007 5:15:58 AM -   #4 (permalink)
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quick question is the press a once color press or one station press. Usually in this Industry Station refers to the number of platens the press has.
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quick question is the press a once color press or one station press. Usually in this Industry Station refers to the number of platens the press has.
its basically a one station press...

so basically what you guys are telling me is that I wont be able to overlap colors?
i'm thinking of using wilflex inks which are texture type inks.. will it work out for me?

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its basically a one station press...
One station, one colour though, yeah? You can also get one station, four colour for example - which obviously wouldn't affect what you can print (just your speed).

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so basically what you guys are telling me is that I wont be able to overlap colors?
Overlapping is exactly what you will be able to do. What you won't be able to do is line up prints that need (even vaguely) close registration.
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When printing multiple colors on shirts you really need a multi colored press. Right now you will have to print a color. Flash . then set up the new frame to print the next color doing the same for all colors being printed. You will have to do this each time for each shirt. Not the best idea. As Lewis mentioned registration will become a major issue. If you take the shirt of the palette and run through a dryer you'll never get it back on the platen/pallet correctly so you can print a new color. At least not within a decent amount of time.
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When printing multiple colors on shirts you really need a multi colored press. Right now you will have to print a color. Flash . then set up the new frame to print the next color doing the same for all colors being printed. You will have to do this each time for each shirt. Not the best idea. As Lewis mentioned registration will become a major issue. If you take the shirt of the palette and run through a dryer you'll never get it back on the platen/pallet correctly so you can print a new color. At least not within a decent amount of time.

So basically its possible but it will take a lot of time.. right? :P hahah

Also, do I have to put the shirt on the dryer after applying every color?

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Yes on drying the shirt after all colors are done. You will need to bring the ink temp up to 300-320 degrees to cure it. I have gotton away with 280 before but it is dangerous.

If you are a drinker I suggest yiou have a truck load of beer for each multi color job you do on a one station/platen press cause you will need it.

Good luck and let us know how you get along with it.

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Yes on drying the shirt after all colors are done. You will need to bring the ink temp up to 300-320 degrees to cure it. I have gotton away with 280 before but it is dangerous.

If you are a drinker I suggest yiou have a truck load of beer for each multi color job you do on a one station/platen press cause you will need it.

Good luck and let us know how you get along with it.

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thanks for your advice dad. hahahah

i'm slow so here are a few questions:P

do i have to fully cure a color before putting another one. and is there a difference if they overlap?

so after all the colors are cured put all the shirts on the dryer?

thank for your time.L:P
 
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do i have to fully cure a color before putting another one.
No. If you fully cure the bottom colours, the top colours won't adhere properly. You don't cure until you've finished printing the final colour.
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Old April 28th, 2007 Apr 28, 2007 1:01:32 AM -   #12 (permalink)
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No. If you fully cure the bottom colours, the top colours won't adhere properly. You don't cure until you've finished printing the final colour.

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If you use Ulano cl emulsion you will be able to see underneath. you'd be better off getting more print heads is it a table press that you can add to?
wilflex ink is good but because you can't have the next screen set down in place you will need to flash.
 
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