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Old April 23rd, 2007 Apr 23, 2007 2:10:04 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default quick simple questions: flashing, curing, water based /plastisol info

for black plastisol ink on a white shirt do u have to print, flash, and then print again, or can u just print like 3 coats
 
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Old April 23rd, 2007 Apr 23, 2007 2:29:09 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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no flash is needed
 
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Old April 23rd, 2007 Apr 23, 2007 6:01:22 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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i tried printing 3 coat of the ink and when i stretch the shirt, it cracks alittle bit, so i'm thinking if i print it with 3 coats flash it and then print it again with 3 coats it shouldn't crack....am i right?
 
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what mesh are you using. More than likely the ink isnt cracking but your seeig the shirt weave spreading and showing the material under the black ink. The ink will stretch a little yet without an additive it will only stretch so far

You should not need to print 3 times with black ink on a white t.
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Old April 23rd, 2007 Apr 23, 2007 9:23:04 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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I'm Usinga 110 Mesh Screen, What About For White Ink On Black Shirts? Oh Yeah, Whats The Difference Between Plastisol Ink And Waterbased Ink, Which Is Better?
 
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Default Re: quick simple question

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Whats The Difference Between Plastisol Ink And Waterbased Ink, Which Is Better?
There are some good answers in this thread for you: Water-Based Ink Screenprinters & The Future

Also read this article: Water-based Ink for Printing
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Old April 24th, 2007 Apr 24, 2007 12:06:41 AM -   #7 (permalink)
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wait i'm confused, do you cure water based ink the same as plastisol ink?
 
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wait i'm confused, do you cure water based ink the same as plastisol ink?
Basically yes. There are additional ways you can cure waterbased (iron, heat press, adding a catalyst to the ink), but the best ways (conveying oven) are the same.
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can you also flash waterbased ink? plastisol is the ink which you can't iron on the design right? and waterbased ink is the one that you can right? is plastisol ink the ink that is rough to the touch, and water base is soft to the touch?
 
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Yes you can flash waterbased. Neither is rough to the touch if printed properly, but waterbased does have a softer hand.
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well for right now i'm using a heat gun, is that y my shirts might crack while stretching?
 
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well for right now i'm using a heat gun, is that y my shirts might crack while stretching?
Heat guns are an unreliable curing method, so it could be leading to problems.
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If I Cure The Ink Using A Flash Dryer, Should My Design Still Crack When Stretched?
 
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Like any other method, that depends on whether or not it's properly cured. As people have said, the only way to properly cure plastisol is with a conveyor (tunnel) dryer. Other methods can work (including a flash, which is at least better than a heat gun), but they are not reliable.
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what are the proper ways of curing waterbased ink?
 
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