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Old April 20th, 2007 Apr 20, 2007 11:33:46 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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I was wondering what is the best way to screen print a logo on a nylon football jersey? Also what mesh screen is best, the jersey is royal blue with white letters and a football helmet.

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Default Re: printing on a nylon mesh jersey

We'd use direct print nylon ink from International Coatings with the catalyst and a finer mesh screen like 125.
 
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Default Re: printing on a nylon mesh jersey

The trick is to print on the surface of the garment and not deep into the mesh. Use good tension on an open mesh with a light touch!
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Default Re: printing on a nylon mesh jersey

your palettes will get ink due tot he mesh jerseys. We stock 11X17 paper. Spray tack to palette and print the design as normal. remove the paper and replace wit a new sheet for each garment.

This all depends on the size of the mesh as the smaller mesh doesnt seem to be that big of an issue
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Old April 23rd, 2007 Apr 23, 2007 12:02:37 AM -   #5 (permalink)
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your palettes will get ink due tot he mesh jerseys. We stock 11X17 paper. Spray tack to palette and print the design as normal. remove the paper and replace wit a new sheet for each garment.

This all depends on the size of the mesh as the smaller mesh doesnt seem to be that big of an issue
My point was and still is that you will not get ink on your platens if you print on the surface of the shirt. The ink will only transfer to the top surface of the shirt, i.e. not the openings. You will need screens with the correct amount of tension and the correct off content. Again, if you have the right tools and use them properly, there is no need for bandaids and fixes. Why go to expense of buying paper, spray tacking it to the platens, and then removing the paper with the platens, using a new sheet for each garment.

This may be fine for someone with more money and time to waste but won't fly in the real world of production and making money, which I believe is the whole point of being in this business.
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My point was and still is that you will not get ink on your platens if you print on the surface of the shirt. The ink will only transfer to the top surface of the shirt, i.e. not the openings. You will need screens with the correct amount of tension and the correct off content. Again, if you have the right tools and use them properly, there is no need for bandaids and fixes. Why go to expense of buying paper, spray tacking it to the platens, and then removing the paper with the platens, using a new sheet for each garment.

This may be fine for someone with more money and time to waste but won't fly in the real world of production and making money, which I believe is the whole point of being in this business.
Real world conditions also say that sometimes printing on the surface with white ink isn't going to happen, especially the first time experimenting with ink/mesh.

Fluid is right about the paper. I do that as well. It works fine for mesh with larger holes. And again, if the holes are small enough, it's not even an issue. It will take some experimenting.

Jerseys are much easier to print on than you might initially think. I've always been happy with the way they turn out.
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Default Re: printing on a nylon mesh jersey

Bill I have had my own shop for 10 years and I produce quite a bit of prints daily. Obviously printing on the garment is the best option, heck thats what we're supposed to do. unfortunately most do not print correctly. I can go in almost any manual and automatic shop and will see imprints on the platens from the printers printing way too hard. I gave a real world tip that works, is only adding may 15 sec per shirt if that.
You have to crawl before you can walk. Its easy to say do it this way as its the correct way. I serious doubt you did everything by the book, to a T and perfectly starting out or trying a new process

"if you have the right tools". This is a huge statement a most do not have the right tools. They are using home made equipment, old press, warped wooden screens. many variable will come into play. My method fits the bill perfectly and will not effect profits on numbers per hour.
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Default Re: printing on a nylon mesh jersey

Thanks everyone. Richard i will try your way. I'm new to all this. What is the best paper to use? and do you run the paper in the drier or take it off before you cure it?

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Default Re: printing on a nylon mesh jersey

Another alternative would be to use a cad material that is designed for use on nylon mesh, and cut the logos using a cutter and then heat apply them to the jersey. Or, find a custom transfer company that will print transfers for you that can go on nylon mesh. It might seem like it will cost more, but in the long run, think of all the time you'll be saving.
 
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thanks I have to print 150 jerseys. I have a heat press I think screen printing is the way to go for this run

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Default Re: printing on a nylon mesh jersey

We use regular cheap copy paper. lightly mist the palette with spray tack to hold the paper in place, mist tack agan for the jersey to stay in palace and print like you normally do. As Bill mentioned its best to lay the ink n the shirt and not pound into the garment/jersey holes. The paper will help to keep the production speed up, yet you will want to learn to control the variables so you will not have to use paper in the future. After a lot of this type of printing you'll get the hang of it
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