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ieaturheart · April 2nd, 2007

Does anyone know how these to shirts/jackets were made? One involves a pattern over the whole shirt which I have seen many times, possibly skulls or pills or hearts or stuff like that this is one that I found off the top of my head. Do they screen it before the shirt is even sewn together?

And the other questions is about shading. Is that one screen but somehow shading is used or is one screen used for every shade of black.

Both are attached. Thanks

-austin

lisalee · April 2nd, 2007

I have the same questions!

I am doing a lot of pen and ink/shaded drawings. When it comes to screening will all of the tones of grey be on one screen? I am a total newbie. Soorrrrry if it sounds redundant. Lisa

Solmu · April 2nd, 2007

All over printing is either done on a belt printer (as with that animal shirt) after the shirt is sewn (or occasionally on a table after the shirt is sewn), or as you mentioned the fabric is printed before the shirt is sewn together.

In terms of shading... sometimes it's done by using multiple ink colours (I'd say that's what's happening here with the skull), sometimes it's done with halftones.

ieaturheart · April 2nd, 2007

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Originally Posted by Solmu


	All over printing is either done on a belt printer (as with that animal shirt) after the shirt is sewn (or occasionally on a table after the shirt is sewn), or as you mentioned the fabric is printed before the shirt is sewn together. In terms of shading... sometimes it's done by using multiple ink colours (I'd say that's what's happening here with the skull), sometimes it's done with halftones.

hmm i will look into this belt printer stuff thanks man

-austin

Solmu · April 2nd, 2007

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Originally Posted by ieaturheart


	hmm i will look into this belt printer stuff thanks man

You might find this thread useful:
all over printing sources - screen printing print all-over the t-shirt with a belt screen printer

Not much information, but a few sources on where to get the printing done.

Fluid · April 2nd, 2007

The Skull shirt looks like maybe 2-3 colors Black and possible 1-2 shades of gray.

ieaturheart · April 2nd, 2007

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	The Skull shirt looks like maybe 2-3 colors Black and possible 1-2 shades of gray.

Wow ok so would you suggest me try to look for something more than a used 4 color silk screener which is what I have been searching around for. Maybe like 6-color or something, if I plan on making similar designs. Also I know there is maybe a forum for this but any idea, while Im on the subject of a ballpark estimate I should plan on spending for a used silk screener. I have heard different values from different sources. One more quick question any suggestions where to go to find one in my area or surrounding cities? Should I just call silk screening shops? Thanks

-austin

TeddyRocky · April 2nd, 2007

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Originally Posted by ieaturheart


	Wow ok so would you suggest me try to look for something more than a used 4 color silk screener which is what I have been searching around for. Maybe like 6-color or something, if I plan on making similar designs. Also I know there is maybe a forum for this but any idea, while Im on the subject of a ballpark estimate I should plan on spending for a used silk screener. I have heard different values from different sources. One more quick question any suggestions where to go to find one in my area or surrounding cities? Should I just call silk screening shops? Thanks -austin

He's not saying you can't achieve the gradient look with a 4 color press. You just need to use halftones. He was just saying the example that was shown seemed to be printed with different ink colors (different greys and such) instead of halftones. If you're not a full blown screen printer and not planning to be for awhile, I would stick to a 4 press machine. Learning the technique of making the shirt look like more than 4 colors is the tricky part. I am just starting out as well, and just bought a 4 color press, I think it will be more than enough for awhile. If you can afford a machine with micro registration, than that'll be a plus.

Fluid · April 2nd, 2007

I would suggest to everyone getting into the industry - Get a 6-clr press.
A 4-clr will limit you big time as to what you can print. On darks your limited to a 3 colro design as youll loose a color for the underbase.

If you plan on printing for schools, comapnies, organizations, etc. a 4-clr will definently limit your ability to produce the majority of the work out there.
Getting a 6-clr 6 station is also best for this aspect of the industry as 6 stations will rprint more shirts faster with less fatigue than a 4 station press

ieaturheart · April 2nd, 2007

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Originally Posted by Fluid


	I would suggest to everyone getting into the industry - Get a 6-clr press. A 4-clr will limit you big time as to what you can print. On darks your limited to a 3 colro design as youll loose a color for the underbase. If you plan on printing for schools, comapnies, organizations, etc. a 4-clr will definently limit your ability to produce the majority of the work out there. Getting a 6-clr 6 station is also best for this aspect of the industry as 6 stations will rprint more shirts faster with less fatigue than a 4 station press

yeah i know that its just i need to compare the cost versus the need. the reason is because i will never really be in a position (in my opinion) where i will be throwing out 100 shirts at a time since it is quality (ie handmade, hand screened, hand painted, hand dyed, signed, and numbered) not really quantity. i think a 6 color is what i might look for but any suggestions on pricing/finding one in possibly texas? should i call local screening companies? one more thing halftones? i assume using to similar colors on one screen?
thanks sorry for the lowercase was too lazy/studying/tired to do anything else. :]

-austin

Fluid · April 2nd, 2007

my typing is horrible as you probably already noticed

Oh well.

As far as used equipment, U.S. Screen Print and Inkjet Technology has a classififed section with people all over selling and buying. Check there.

Halftones are used in a couple of ways.
One color prints with various shades of the same color - looks like more colors printed yet only one actually was (greyscale) Depending on the dot size and shape will determine how well this type of print will look. Smooth or course
Another use of halftones is in the mixing of color on press.
A blend of yellow to blue will utilize a halftone gradient. (see attached)
wher the blue overlaps the yellow youll get a green

ieaturheart · April 3rd, 2007

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Originally Posted by Fluid


	my typing is horrible as you probably already noticed Oh well. As far as used equipment, U.S. Screen Print and Inkjet Technology has a classififed section with people all over selling and buying. Check there. Halftones are used in a couple of ways. One color prints with various shades of the same color - looks like more colors printed yet only one actually was (greyscale) Depending on the dot size and shape will determine how well this type of print will look. Smooth or course Another use of halftones is in the mixing of color on press. A blend of yellow to blue will utilize a halftone gradient. (see attached) wher the blue overlaps the yellow youll get a green

hmm alright thanks again for the advice. studying for a test on thurs has burnt my brain so im out for now. but i will check out that website. also any idea how much i should plan to drop on a 6 color press? any advice in that area?

-austin

Rodney · April 3rd, 2007

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	One more quick question any suggestions where to go to find one in my area or surrounding cities? Should I just call silk screening shops? Thanks

Check this thread for companies that can do that type printing:
all over printing sources - screen printing print all-over the t-shirt with a belt screen printer

ieaturheart · April 3rd, 2007

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Originally Posted by Rodney


	Check this thread for companies that can do that type printing: all over printing sources - screen printing print all-over the t-shirt with a belt screen printer

thanks for the advice i will look into that if i ever have the need to do that.

i have been calling local screen printing places and searching the web but no luck at all. and if i do happen to come across a used 6-color silkscreener any suggestions on prices i should look for. even if its a ballpark it would help. any other suggestions on finding one? i typed in classifieds screen printing in google and classifieds (a ton of other similar things) and came up with a lot of nothing. thanks

-austin

Rodney · April 3rd, 2007

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	nd if i do happen to come across a used 6-color silkscreener any suggestions on prices i should look for. even if its a ballpark it would help. any other suggestions on finding one

Are you looking for the machine or someone to do the printing?

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