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Old March 11th, 2007 Mar 11, 2007 9:03:56 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Plast-o-meric ink...any good?

Hey guys...(and girls) Just wondering if 'Plast-o-meric' ink is any good. Haven't found too much info on it in the forums.

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I've never heard of that ink before.
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Default Re: Plast-o-meric ink...any good?

I believe that Plast-o-meric is make by WM inks. A buddy of mine has used it and said it works pretty good, maybe alittle thick. I don't know first hand, just what he said. But he only does simple artwork, so it might not be good for fine detail.

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I believe that Plast-o-meric is make by WM inks.
Plast-O-Meric is part of the giant PolyOne Corporation that also owns Wilflex Inks.
 
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I believe that Plast-o-meric is make by WM inks. A buddy of mine has used it and said it works pretty good, maybe alittle thick. I don't know first hand, just what he said. But he only does simple artwork, so it might not be good for fine detail.

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Thanks for all the help and info...So if it is thicker than other brands out there, what is the best way to thin it down? Would paint thinner work well?
 
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So if it is thicker than other brands out there, what is the best way to thin it down? Would paint thinner work well?
Plastisol ink is designed to be printed as it is in the can. Because it is not paint, paint thinner is not a good choice.

There are plastisol thinners which reduce the viscosity, but you should buy them from the same company as the ink itself until you better understand the makeup of the ink. If you add too much to the ink IT WILL NOT CURE. Plastisols are 100% solids and heat crosslinks the resin - trapping the liquid component (plasticizer) between resin molecules so i9t forms a film and is flexible.

There are also plastisol extenders. These are a balanced combination of liquid plasticizer and resin in the ink. They are also called balanced reducers. You can add as much as you want until you get the viscosity because they will cure, but you will dilute the color.
 
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Default Re: Plast-o-meric ink...any good?

Greaves hit that nail on the head. "Keep the ink thick". If you feel you must reduce it...call the company and get a soft-hand extender base. If you do however, printing white on a dark color shirt will let the shirt color bleed through and you'll have to print, flash, print until it is bullet-proof.
Some inks and different colors of those inks will be thicker than others. Stir the ink before you use it and it will losin' up. The more you push it back and forth in the screen will also losin' it...so please, don't use paint thinner.
You might try screens like 110/156 for white ink or open images and 156/230 for dark inks and fine line artwork.


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Default Re: Plast-o-meric ink...any good?

Thanks for all the info guys...I did my first start to finish shirt (reclaimed screen, applied emulsion, burned the screen, printed the shirt, and dried it) and it worked perfect. The ink did loosen up quite a bit after using it for a little bit. I used a 200 screen and it seemed to work great. Thank you again for all the info. This forum has really educated me....

One other thing, has anyone ever used the 'puff up' additive in their ink to make the image puff up as it dries?


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One other thing, has anyone ever used the 'puff up' additive in their ink to make the image puff up as it dries?
I haven't used it with 'plast-o-meric' inks, but I've used it with waterbased inks. I'm sure there'd be lots of people on the forums who've used it with plastisol. What do you want to know about it?
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I just wanted to know how to use it, how much to add, if you have to dry it differently etc...I was just going through a box of inks and came across a can of it. I would like to try it...I just don't know too much about it.
 
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I just wanted to know how to use it
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how much to add, if you have to dry it differently etc...I was just going through a box of inks and came across a can of it.
I haven't used it very often (or lately), so I don't remember how much to add (plus the product I used could very well be different anyway). It might require a slightly different curing temperature or time, but it won't be significantly different.

There aren't any instructions on the can you have? Is there a brand name? (someone might have the specific instructions for that brand). I'm sure someone can give you a rule of thumb for experimentation at least if it's completely unmarked. Sorry I'm not much help

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I would like to try it...I just don't know too much about it.
It's pretty easy to use once you have the instructions, so hopefully that can get sorted for you one way or another
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Default Re: Plast-o-meric ink...any good?

Good rule of thumb is to add about 5% puff to 95% ink you wish to use. I have found just about any puff will work in any plastisol ink. But I think it is always good to use the same brand with each if you can. Print a shirt with a double stroke and run it through the dryer and see what happens. If it doesn't puff like you want you can always add more puff. It's always better to add a little amount of puff each time then to have to add more ink. I still run the dryer at about 350 degrees, but once you run a shirt through with puff ink you can't run it through again because it will lose it's puffness. You can also print one hard stroke and then one soft stroke to lay down a lot of ink, it will really puff up then! Hope this helps!
 
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Default Re: Plast-o-meric ink...any good?

Personal I like Union and One Stroke inks. I think you have more color choices and more ink type options with One Stoke then any other brand. I really don't like Plast-O-Meric that much. Hope this helps!
 
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