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Old November 20th, 2009 Nov 20, 2009 6:07:58 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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looking for opinions on electric conveyor dryers 30" to 36" x 9' to 10'

also... what do you use to print your positives? we currently cut vinyl and apply it to EdgePositive material. its labor intensive and expensive.

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Default Re: I need help spending some money!!!

I would normally say buy the largest dryer you can afford, even if you have to grow into it.

But between 30" and 36" not a substantial difference. If money is no object, go wider to allow more room on the belt to double up shirts.

Between 9' and 10', even less difference. Not enough to probably make any difference to you.

As for positives, I would recommend an Epson printer with screen print specific RIP software for your best film output. If you don't need a film as big as 17" wide, go with an Epson 1400. You can output a 13" film which is by far the most common size. Most printers with 17" capacity (Epson 4880) never actually buy 17" film.
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Old November 20th, 2009 Nov 20, 2009 6:52:46 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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I use and xante 13 x 18 laser to print my film positives, I use to use fast rip with a canon 3000 inkjet for 5 years, and before that another xante. I prefer the laser, partially because I am cheap. I run less film positive now, with a lot being reprints.
Inkjets want to be used regular, plus when going for xp to vista, I didn't want to upgrade the software. The first xante 3g I picked up on ebay for $400 and the second backup for $78. The cannon's I keep for a backup. I use GPS Laser Vellum for about 45 cents a plate.

Advice, your light source and whether use vacuum will have a lot to do with what works. I use a violux 3000 watt, in the 440 nanometer range. The poorer the quality of your light source, the more important vacuum and density of your film positive become. Quality wise, your light should be one and a half times the diagonal of the frames you are exposing. For me that is 60 inch diagonal for two and exposing at 90 inches away with a 2 minute exposure for two frames.

Your exposure system and setup needs to be described to determine what won't likely work for you - it will be a density issue

I use a 36 x16' Dryer, Harco-out of business, it is 100 amp at 220, which can be a problem depending on your wiring
 
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Default Re: I need help spending some money!!!

Hi Dale

Terry's right; investment in a wider dryer belt when a budget may allow is usually an advantage.

As an example, 36" vs. 30" belt can more easily permit curing of larger images on larger shirts without a lot of underfolding.
("oversize" imaging is also a reason for having a 17" wide Epson 3000, 4000, 4800, or 4880)

Additionally, always note whether dryer length is referring to belt length or tunnel length.

The longer the tunnel, the easier to control cure at faster belt speeds,
and a longer "infeed" belt length (before the tunnel entrance) can permit more garment placement options if more than one press or ease "doubling up"

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Default Re: I need help spending some money!!!

Thanks for the help. On the dryer i was looking for help on which brand. around 5000.00 budget. sorry

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Default Re: I need help spending some money!!!

Hi Dale

No need to apologize. I should read more carefully.......

I've found that folks who drive M&R's will say M&R, BlackBody drivers will say BlackBody, Lawson folks say Lawson and so on........

Most dryers are heat panels + thermostat + conveyor and have standard features like adjustable gates, etc, in that price range.
Little varies from manufacturer to manufacturer, and the subtle differences are minor compared to who may want to offer you the best year-end special.

Considering the expected increase in customers we have exiting the industry currently, the best year-end special may be something "pre-owned".
That may turn out to be the biggest bang for your buck to take advantage of your timing.

If the classifeds on this site don't have what fits the bill, there is a nifty site: www.digitsmith.com that might.

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