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Another new Rhinestone software by Graphtec, IdesignR is the name :)



 
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Old September 1st, 2009 Sep 1, 2009 2:49:52 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Another new Rhinestone software by Graphtec, IdesignR is the name :)

Well it seems there is yet another low price option for designing rhinestones Terry/dtfuqua reported on this in another thread, and I felt it might be good to give it its own thread to see what kind of information we can accumulate on this one Here is a link to the graphtec site which has it listed Graphtec America: Cutting Plotters, Vinyl Cutters, InkJet Printers, Wide Format Image Scanners, Data Loggers, Acquisition platforms, Electronic Testing Instruments, Craft Robo, i-DesignR, and at a nice price point I might add. I have emailed Graphtec to see what kind of fill options are on this software, as they are not really listed. It looks very similar to the ACS and KNK software, so we will see what developes with it as well. It is really great that companies are taking notice of the need for lower price options and giving the people what they want

I will update back when I recieve a reply from them as far as functions for fill designs.

Thanks again Terry for a great find
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Default Re: Another new Rhinestone software by Graphtec, IdesignR is the name :)

Well they put up another video but it doesn't have anything to do with the rhinestone parts. I wonder if they understand that the only thing that makes this software special enough to be worth that much money is the rhinestone part. Maybe they will get a clue and expand on the rhinestone parts capabilities part of the videos. I hate the videos where they do music over the video and expect people to understand what is going on by watching the screen while they play music
 
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Default Re: Another new Rhinestone software by Graphtec, IdesignR is the name :)

I have the Demo of Klic-N-Kut open and looking at this new program side by side and they both are the same program except Klic-N-Kut seems to have a few more buttons but they may not have them turned on in the video.

I can watch the video and do all the same things in Klic-N-Kut its the same.

I wonder if this is a light version of Klic-N-Kut or it may be 100% the same at a lower price point ??.

Thanks for the link..
 
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Default Re: Another new Rhinestone software by Graphtec, IdesignR is the name :)

Is that the ACS Studio you have with the klick-n-kut or the Klick-nKut studio or are both of them the same?
 
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Well they put up another video but it doesn't have anything to do with the rhinestone parts. I wonder if they understand that the only thing that makes this software special enough to be worth that much money is the rhinestone part. Maybe they will get a clue and expand on the rhinestone parts capabilities part of the videos. I hate the videos where they do music over the video and expect people to understand what is going on by watching the screen while they play music
You know... I'm so glad to hear you say that. Music overlays on technical videos annoy me TREMENDOUSLY! You will never see me do that in any of my videos. I consider it far more valuable if I'm explaining things during the videos instead, so that the viewer receives more information and knowledge.
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I have the Demo of Klic-N-Kut open and looking at this new program side by side and they both are the same program except Klic-N-Kut seems to have a few more buttons but they may not have them turned on in the video.

I can watch the video and do all the same things in Klic-N-Kut its the same.

I wonder if this is a light version of Klic-N-Kut or it may be 100% the same at a lower price point ??.

Thanks for the link..
It's possible that it does not have some of the same functions. When Graphtec Great Britain came out with Design Master for the little Craft Robo, it was missing a lot of menu functions in order to get the price down. I was hired to write the user manual for that version, as well, so I had to carefully go through Design Master to take note of what was missing and how things worked differently from our Klic-N-Kut version. I'll go watch this video to see if I recognize any similarities between it and Design Master in terms of functionality.
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Default Re: Another new Rhinestone software by Graphtec, IdesignR is the name :)

I found another video from Graphtec about this software. Graphtec America: Cutting Plotters, Vinyl Cutters, InkJet Printers, Wide Format Image Scanners, Data Loggers, Acquisition platforms, Electronic Testing Instruments, Craft Robo is the link.
Also, Thank you for your interest and help Sandy.
 
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Default Re: Another new Rhinestone software by Graphtec, IdesignR is the name :)

Also, if you go to the FAQ page from that link, you'll find more videos. Good luck.
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Default Re: Another new Rhinestone software by Graphtec, IdesignR is the name :)

Ok, I talked directly to sales at Cadlink and the person I talked to said he believes the only difference is the cutters that are supported in the two different versions of the program (besides the names and the people that purchased them to be OEM with their cutters). That was a responce off the top of his head but he told me to shoot him an email and he would try to get a little more information and get back to me.
 
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Ok, I talked directly to sales at Cadlink and the person I talked to said he believes the only difference is the cutters that are supported in the two different versions of the program (besides the names and the people that purchased them to be OEM with their cutters). That was a responce off the top of his head but he told me to shoot him an email and he would try to get a little more information and get back to me.
I've now watched all of their videos and there are some significant things missing from I-DesignR. Specifically:

  1. No Ginsu Knife Tools (used to create perfectly symmetrical rhinestone layouts)
  2. No Hatch Fill (used for various pattern fills)
  3. No Stencil Tool (used for interesting geometric pattern fills)
  4. No Center Line Trace (used to convert regular fonts to single line fonts for rhinestone patterns
  5. Only one Welding Tool (ACS Design Studio has three. I use one of the missing ones in creating rhinestone fills from the Array function)
  6. No Banner Fill (used for engraving)
  7. No Character Picker (used to easily select characters from dingbat fonts)
  8. No Nesting (used to economize material use)
  9. No Monument Shape
  10. No Spell Checker
  11. No Text Find and Replace

This is what I could observe from the videos. There are probably more differences within the drop-down menus and, as they add more videos, I'll continue to compare. They only function I see that I-DesignR has that KNK and ACS does not have, is superscript and subscript in their Text Smart Bar.
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I am still waiting for their reply to my email, but nothing yet
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Default Re: Another new Rhinestone software by Graphtec, IdesignR is the name :)

SO...... is the SignLab software the "ROOT" software of all of these?????

If so... wouldn't it be the best option???
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SO...... is the SignLab software the "ROOT" software of all of these?????

If so... wouldn't it be the best option???
Yes, it would be root software, however, it wouldn't necessarily have the drivers for all of the cutters. Also, I think it's like $1300 in price? I read that somewhere but I've never verified it.
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Default Re: Another new Rhinestone software by Graphtec, IdesignR is the name :)

What are the 500.00 versions on their web site?(maybe just pieces of the 1300.00 main)
Do you know anything about those?

I guess I would need to call them ........
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What are the 500.00 versions on their web site?(maybe just pieces of the 1300.00 main)
Do you know anything about those?

I guess I would need to call them ........
You would definitely need to call them and ask. Again, I've never spent time looking at their various packages. I've used their site for general tech support information about their program, watched some of their videos, and read posts at their forum. But I've never studied their actual product line since we already had our own packages which are priced based on the features and drivers we request be included.

Make sure you talk to someone who actually understands their packages and knows what they are talking about. Sometimes you get people who just say what they "think", rather than actually look up the information. That's pretty obvious based on what happened earlier today when Terry was told that there were no functional differences between I-DesignR and ACS Studio. Since you cannot alteror customize the Tools toolbar at all, for example, I'm quite confident that those items I listed above are valid. The only reason they wouldn't be is if the software being used in the Graphtec's videos isn't the actual version being sold. But that wouldn't make any sense at all.
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