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Why are my images so much brighter in paintshop than on paper or t-shirt?



 
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Old October 1st, 2009 Oct 1, 2009 1:18:17 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Question Why are my images so much brighter in paintshop than on paper or t-shirt?

I am wondering how I can keep the colors true to those I choose while using Paintshop Pro. The colors look very bright and vibrant in paintshop, they look significantly less bright on the Ironall paper that I am using and when I press them onto the shirts using a heatpress (375 degrees for 30 seconds), the colors dull even more (I also notice that the colored shirts seem to lose some brightness after I press them) I use a Canon MX310 printer and OEM ink. My shirts are all about fun bright colors so this is not what I had hoped for. Can anyone give me some advice on how to improve on this? Thanks!!
 
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Default Re: Why are my images so much brighter in paintshop than on paper or t-shirt?

It may just be a screen issue. Try matching your screen colors to the output on one of your transfers.

Then change the colors on your screen back to bright and that's how they should print.
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So, does that mean I should make the colors on the screen several degrees brighter in paintshop than I really need them to be? I wish there was an option in paintshop or on the printer to make sure the colors stayed true. Thanks!
 
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Default Re: Why are my images so much brighter in paintshop than on paper or t-shirt?

Not 100% sure what you meen but monitors are backlit and shiney paper and shirts are front lit from natural lite. Not sure on the monitor but could play with monitor settings to get a visual of more what will be printed out. I have a viewsonic 18" that had a reading lighting mode that was more dull but was based on making the image lighting more like it was being read or looked at from a book or what would be printed. That might help you match the output color you want to get. Worth looking into unless its a printer issue.
 
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Default Re: Why are my images so much brighter in paintshop than on paper or t-shirt?

I found this: I wonder if that is the issue, I don't think paintshop pro has this conversion tool.
Important Information About RGB and CMYK

Many graphics software programs give you the choice to work in either RGB or CMYK. These are called "color spaces". Scanners and digital cameras create images using combinations of just three colors: Red, Green and Blue (called "RGB"). These are the primary colors of light, which computers use to display images on your screen. Printing presses print full color pictures using a different set of colors, the primary colors of pigment: Cyan (blue), Magenta (red), Yellow and Black (called "CMYK"). This is "4-color process" or "full-color" printing that comprises the majority of magazines and marketing materials you see every day. At some stage your RGB file must be translated to CMYK in order to print it on a printing press.

It's Best If You do the RGB-to-CMYK Conversion of Your Images

You will have more control over the appearance of your printed piece if you convert all of the images from RGB to CMYK before sending them to us. When we receive RGB images, we do a standard-value conversion to CMYK, which may not be perfectly to your liking. We want you to be happy, so please, take the time to prepare your file properly. We cannot be responsible for sub-par results if you furnish your images in RGB. Even though monitors always use RGB to display colors, the colors you see on your monitor will more closely match the final printed piece if you are viewing them in the CMYK color space.

Be aware that it is possible to see colors in RGB that you can't make with CMYK. They are said to be "out of the CMYK color gamut". What happens is that the RGB-to-CMYK translator just gets as close as possible to the appearance of the original and that's as good as it can be. It's something that everyone in the industry puts up with. So it's best to select any colors you use for fonts or other design elements in your layout using CMYK definitions instead of RGB. That way, you will have a better idea of how they will appear in your printed piece. Here's a common example: many programs translate the 100% Blue in RGB into a somewhat purple-looking color in CMYK. We recommend a CMYK value of 100-65-0-0 to get a nice clean blue. Working in the CMYK color space allows you to select the CMYK recipe, or "screen build", that gives you the results you want.

Here are some examples of how various RGB colors convert to CMYK:


rgb colors
(what you see on screen)
cmyk colors
(printing inks will do this)
rgb colors
(what you see on screen)
cmyk colors
(printing inks will do this)
You most likely won't notice this kind of color shift in a color photograph. It is more likely to happen if you pick a very rich, vibrant color for a background or some other element of your layout. It probably won't look bad, it just won't look exactly the same. But it may not be noticeable at all either.

To purchase a color guide with over 3,000 process colors with their CMYK screen percentages, please visit CreativePro.


Converting to CMYK Color Space

Here is a list of several common programs with instructions on how to make sure you are working in the CMYK color space. If your program or version is not listed here, don't worry. Most of these instructions will apply to all versions of a program. If at any time you need further help, please call us for assistance. We are happy to talk you through the steps needed to get your document into the CMYK color space.

Microsoft Publisher 2000

Microsoft Publisher defaults to RGB. It is easy to convert everything to a CMYK color space or to start a new document using the CMYK color space.

Use the following menu options: Tools/Commercial Printing Tools/ Color Printing and select Process colors (CMYK). Please note that all images incorporated into a layout need to be linked and not embedded in order to maintain the CMYK color space within the image. Using the following menu options does this: Tools/Commercial Printing Tools/Graphics Manager and highlight the embedded image. Click Link and click Browse to locate the original file and link to it. You will then need to send both the images and the layout file to us for printing.

Microsoft Publisher 2003

Select Tools/Commercial Printing Tools/ Color Printing, Select Process Colors (CMYK)

Adobe Photoshop

If the file already exists select the following menu options: Image/Mode/CMYK When starting a new file select CMYK for the mode before clicking OK.

Corel Draw 9

Select each object you want to convert. Select the Fill tool and click Fill Color Dialog. Make sure the Color model is CMYK. For each object with an outline: Select the Outline tool and click the Outline Color Dialog. Make sure the Color model is CMYK.

Adobe Illustrator

Select File/Document color mode/CMYK color

Quark Xpress 4.1

Use the following menu options: Edit/Edit Colors/Show Colors in Use/Highlight Color and click Edit. Change model to CMYK and deselect Spot color. Remember to send us your layout and linked images!

Adobe InDesign

Use the following menu options: Window/Swatches and Window/Color. Double click color in Swatches Change color mode to CMYK and color type to Process. Any colors created in the document that are not in the Swatches palette, need to be changed to the CMYK color space. Select each object you want to convert and make sure the Color palette reflects the CMYK percentages. Click top right arrow in the palette to change to CMYK if necessary. Remember to send us your layout and linked images!

Adobe Pagemaker 6.5

Use the following menu options: Window/Show Colors. Double click "colors" in palette and select Model to be CMYK and Type to be Process. Please be advised that Pagemaker does not successfully represent CMYK color on the monitor.

The following programs do not have the capability to convert to CMYK. No worry, we will convert it for you free of charge!
Adobe Photoshop LE
Adobe PhotoDeluxe
Microsoft Word
Microsoft ExcelMicrosoft Powerpoint
Microsoft Works
Microsoft PhotoDraw
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Default Re: Why are my images so much brighter in paintshop than on paper or t-shirt?

I don't really use paintshop pro, I use photoshop, but it doesn't really matter that much if you are using very vibrant colors. You don't need to convert to cmyk, that's for large press-magazines, ads, etc. your doing a different type of printing going to transfer paper. There is a lot of testing that you need to do to get the results that you want. You have to take in consideration the color of the shirt you are going to put the design on, so not only do you worry about the design but what it's going on. And you have to consider the different types of transfer paper, I understand that you were using ironall, and a cannon printer. I would print the image out on regular paper first to see how close the file looks to your monitor, which will never match exactly but you will get a good idea about your printer output. Printers tend to print out with a color shift and once dry look different. Cannons tend to do that I have a Pixma 9000 pro and it tends to print less magenta, my epson prints much truer, so I never print any transfer on the cannon. There are several other test that you need to do just to get the quality output with what you have. 1 suggestion wuld to go to a fabric store and get a yard of fabric-100% cotton or a 50/50 blend and start your test from there, you may even try adjusting your temperature and pressure during these test. Just a thought, good luck
 
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