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What are the differences between dark tshirt transfer paper, vinyl and plastisols?



 
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Old September 28th, 2009 Sep 28, 2009 12:30:52 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default What are the differences between dark tshirt transfer paper, vinyl and plastisols?

I've had my heat press for a few years and have made some shirts for myself and friends with pretty good results. I've decided to try my hand at vending. Before, I didn't mind if they didn't survive a wash or cracked in the dryer but now quality is a concern.

Based on the threads, I've decided on JPSS for my light colored shirts but I'm still unsure on dark colors. I've used June Taylor Dark Xfer paper in the past and they're not bad but I'm sure there are better ones out there.

What differences exist when using a good quality transfer paper, vinyl and plastisol?

Also, what can I expect to spend on vinyl and plastisol if I order around 75-100. I usually do my own design work. My press is 12x14.

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I've had my heat press for a few years and have made some shirts for myself and friends with pretty good results. I've decided to try my hand at vending. Before, I didn't mind if they didn't survive a wash or cracked in the dryer but now quality is a concern.

Based on the threads, I've decided on JPSS for my light colored shirts but I'm still unsure on dark colors. I've used June Taylor Dark Xfer paper in the past and they're not bad but I'm sure there are better ones out there.

What differences exist when using a good quality transfer paper, vinyl and plastisol?

Also, what can I expect to spend on vinyl and plastisol if I order around 75-100. I usually do my own design work. My press is 12x14.

Thanks guys.
Plastisol will be your cheapest route. Heat Vinyl is still pretty high up there. And transfer papers are pretty much you get what you pay for. I would google "getting into screen printing" you will find everything you need to know.
 
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Based on the threads, I've decided on JPSS for my light colored shirts but I'm still unsure on dark colors. I've used June Taylor Dark Xfer paper in the past and they're not bad but I'm sure there are better ones out there.
The pro dark papers are better than what you can generally get at the local craft or walmart stores, etc... but they still have not improved the way inkjet heat transfers for lights have.... not yet, but a sample pack wouldn't set you back much.

You could use whatever printer you have on hand to see if you like the hand, but unless you have pigment ink, they won't last in the wash for too long. But to sample a feel, it'll do that job.

Pretty popular dark heat transfer papers on the forum are JetWear IYA Dark (Ironall Dark is another one of it's many names) and then JetWear Dark (which is Neenah JET Opaque under one of it's other names.)

I believe Tshirtsupplies.com and Coastal.com carry sample packs with both papers. Check their websites to see, if you are interested in giving the paper a test run.

It's always best, imo, to know first hand yourself, when deciding on what process to choose. My your opinion will vary from ours... you won't know unless you try.

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What differences exist when using a good quality transfer paper, vinyl and plastisol?
In order of how long they will last:
1. Vinyl - will out live the garment (so I've heard again and again).
2. Plastisol - lasts a long time when properly produced at the mfg/vendor.
3. I think I'd say JetWear IYA dark will give about a good year (in my case - given my laundry conditions, etc). It does stretch with the shirt, not crack or peel, but over time, in a hot dryer with warm washes like I do, it loses color and gets a bit tougher after about a years time.

In order of what is easiest to apply:
1. Plastisols - quick, press and peel, short dwell time.

The next two could be close in the running, imo... but I think I'll go this way:

2. Vinyl - you have to send it to the cutter, then weed it, then press it.
3. Inkjet paper - you have to print it and then send it to a cutter if you want to trim away the excess, or trim it by hand with scissors or an exacto knife.

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Also, what can I expect to spend on vinyl and plastisol if I order around 75-100. I usually do my own design work.
*vinyl - do you plan to invest in a cutter, do you already have a cutter, or do you plan to outsource the job to someone with a cutter and have them mailed to you, either weeded or unweeded?

*plastisols - you can send a design out and get some quotes. The prices vary, here is a thread with a comprehensive list of plastisol vendors.
Custom Plastisol Transfer Vendors, a list

Not only that, but you can search "plastisol pricing" on the forum, that topic is well covered here.

Best wishes, hope this helps ya out...
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