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Plastisol heat transfers for 4 colors on dark garment



 
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Old November 16th, 2009 Nov 16, 2009 2:23:10 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Plastisol heat transfers for 4 colors on dark garment

I have a customer ordering 25 to 50 black sweatshirts printed on front with a 4-color design and back with a 1-color design. Regular screen printing requires a white underbase for each side totaling 7 screens which is significant setup. I've never used plastisol transfers but wonder whether they might work better cost-wise than conventional screen printing. Also, don't know anything about these transfers so what would be things to watch out for?
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Old November 16th, 2009 Nov 16, 2009 6:40:55 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Plastisol heat transfers for 4 colors on dark garment

when you say white underbase to you mean the design should be printed in white 1st before the other coats of ink is applied?
 
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Default Re: Plastisol heat transfers for 4 colors on dark garment

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...better cost-wise than conventional screen printing.
This is impossible to answer without knowing your screenprinting costs.

Here are some costs from a medium priced transfer maker:
50 transfers
1 color = $107
4 color = $279

How does that compare with screenprinting?
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Default Re: Plastisol heat transfers for 4 colors on dark garment

Yes, the white underbase is the first layer on which all remaining colors are printed. The underbase keeps the fabric color from influencing the final colors.
 
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This is impossible to answer without knowing your screenprinting costs.

Here are some costs from a medium priced transfer maker:
50 transfers
1 color = $107
4 color = $279

How does that compare with screenprinting?
Sorry, I guess that is an important part of the solution, isn't it? I use a medium size screen printer so here's my screen printing costs:
Qty 36 print 5 color front (includes underbase)
is $ 3.47 ea = $ 124.92

Qty 36 print 2 color back (includes underbase)
is $ 1.60 ea = $ 57.60

Qty 7 screens for setup = $ 126.00
Total $ 308.52

So, it appears that screen printing might be the most advantageous, right?
Any thoughts?
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Default Re: Plastisol heat transfers for 4 colors on dark garment

hey hoosier so even if i was doing a 2 colour print and one of the colours is white would i still need to but down the white underbase first?
 
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hey hoosier so even if i was doing a 2 colour print and one of the colours is white would i still need to but down the white underbase first?
I've seen it done 2 ways. The first way would simply use the white color as the underbase as well and the second way is to print a white underbase and then the other 2 colors (including white) on top.

The printer I use always uses a separate white underbase and I think the quality of his work reflects that but I suspect in a lot of cases you could get by with using the white color as the underbase as well. In my particular case, we're printing onto black material so I want that separate underbase layer.
 
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thnaks for taking the time to share that hoosier....have a good 1...regards...jayjays prints
 
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The printer I use always uses a separate white underbase and I think the quality of his work reflects that ...
When I was still screenprinting we always used a separate white underbase. Print it, flash it, then print on the underbase.
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