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Old September 26th, 2009 Sep 26, 2009 9:08:53 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Red face Can someone tell me what I did wrong?

problem 2.jpg

i know this is a bad pic but let me give the specs
Navy 50/50 hoodies
white underbase 200 mesh
golden yellow top color 195

if you can't tell it feels like sand paper.
I really need help.
I wasted to many to try again with out help.

Any help would be great

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Old September 26th, 2009 Sep 26, 2009 9:33:19 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Can someone tell me what I did wrong?

before I give any advice , I have a few questions for you.

1. how many passes did you do for the white underbase?
2. did the print look like sandpaper before you put the gold yellow down?
3. are you flashing between colors or is it wet on wet?
4. if flashing ....how long?
5. for the underbase how many coats did you put on the screen?
6. do you have any off contact for the 2 colors?

as far as I can tell from the image you posted...it looks like fibers....a thicker underbase should help keep the fibers down...this is just my opinion.

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Old September 27th, 2009 Sep 27, 2009 2:08:01 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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We would have used a 156 for the underbase which would had allowed more ink to be put down on the underbase.
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Old October 14th, 2009 Oct 14, 2009 11:20:53 PM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Can someone tell me what I did wrong?

I can tell you this...
We would NEVER use a 200 mesh underbase on something that has no halftone. Unless I am seeing this wrong.

1. We would use a 110 mesh underbase and a 110 mesh for the second color. Let's think of this simply for a second. Why use such a high mesh count on hoodies? As if it is not hard enough to print white ink on any mesh, think about how much harder it is to get the ink through on anything higher than a 110.

2. The second mistake is that you are allowing your first hit to be a poor hit. Meaning the ink is not clear of the screen and evenly laid out on the sweatshirt and you have left fibers sticking up where the ink has not been cleared. So then you flash dry that hit and hit it again, it still looks horrible. That is because you CANNOT clean up a bad first hit. Your first hit must look perfect and smooth.

Every company has their own methods of printing and I am sure many companies would disagree with using 110 mesh at all in any image. But why push your life away trying to get ink through a screen that it was not meant to go through. White ink will go through any screen, I understand this, but unless it has a halftone, it should not be on such a high mesh count.

Try what I've told you here.
1. Use 110 mesh.
2. Make sure your first hit (Whether it's 2, 3 or 4 pull backs, make sure that when you lift that screen, your ink has gone through it everywhere it was supposed to)

That's it. And if it did have halftone in the image, use a 156 mesh, and go to step 2 and that is all it takes.

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Try what I've told you here.

2. Make sure your first hit (Whether it's 2, 3 or 4 pull backs, make sure that when you lift that screen, your ink has gone through it everywhere it was supposed to)
I know this is an old post, but I'm in the process of printing hoodies and they are fuzzing up when I lift the screen - what kind of off contact do you use? Do you press the ink in hard for the first hit? Any tips to eliminate the fuzz? My emulsion is at 1/1 - I'm thinking if it was thicker I might be a lot better of as well. thanks for any feedback
 
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I know this is an old post, but I'm in the process of printing hoodies and they are fuzzing up when I lift the screen - what kind of off contact do you use? Do you press the ink in hard for the first hit? Any tips to eliminate the fuzz? My emulsion is at 1/1 - I'm thinking if it was thicker I might be a lot better of as well. thanks for any feedback
We always put two coats on the print side and one coat on the ink side, using the sharp edge of the scoop coater. Never had any issues. And usually use a 110 mesh with white and a hard durameter squeege with plenty of pressure. Make sure the off contact is suffecient also.
 
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