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Old April 27th, 2009 Apr 27, 2009 9:55:53 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Emulsion for discharge printing

Hello...
I want to print discharge inks but have a few questions....

first - can I use the same emulsion for discharge as I do for plastisol?

second - is a 230 mesh ok for discharge printing?

third - can I use a flash unit to cure discharge inks and at what temp do discharge inks cure?

any help would be appreciated

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Default Re: Emulsion for discharge printing

You will need a water based emulsion for discharge inks. A 230 mesh can be used but the inks will dry faster in the screen. We'll only use a 230 if we have to discharge a halftone...it's a pain in the *ss sometimes. I wouldn't recommend a flash unit for discharge, especially if you're going to use it with pigments. The discharge needs to be cured for 2.5 to 3 minutes at anywhere from 300 to 350 degrees (depending on what the manufacturer suggests). You'll need to make sure that all moisture has evaporated from the ink in order for it to set properly. If there's any moisture left, the pigments will bleed. Lots of airflow is needed to get it to evaporate.
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Default Re: Emulsion for discharge printing

Oh yeah, try out Wilflex's Plascharge. It's a Plastisol/Discharge hybrid. You can use a plastisol ink to add the color.
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Default Re: Emulsion for discharge printing

thank you for your quick response...

how about water base inks.....what im trying to do is get a vintage or antique look to the print and I dont think plastisol will do it the way I want..not really sure how to go about it to be honest.what inks are availible to get a vintage look ?

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Default Re: Emulsion for discharge printing

Discharge with pigments will give you the vintage look you want. You can do discharge with a flash, it just will be less easy. Discharges need airflow to work fast, but i've done it in a kitchen oven, and they turned out great.
I've done ~20 shirts with Matsui discharge on QX-1 emulsion. When I went to wash it out, the entire layer of emulsion on the squeegee side was gone, I wouldn't have gotten many more shirts out of it..
 
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Default Re: Emulsion for discharge printing

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try out Wilflex's Plascharge. It's a Plastisol/Discharge hybrid. You can use a plastisol ink to add the color.
what is this....an additive ?
i would like a soft hand as much as possible ..and i know with plastisol the hand isnt as soft as I would like to achieve.

what type of emulsion would be recommended for waterbased or discharge inks?

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Default Re: Emulsion for discharge printing

The Plascharge is a base that you add plastisol ink and discharge activator to. You add 50% Plascharge and 50% plastisol (by weight) and then add in about 6-10% of the discharge activator. It comes out nice and soft. Maybe not quite as soft as Matsui discharge and pigments though.
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Default Re: Emulsion for discharge printing

As far as Ulano, you can use 925WR, QT-Discharge, or RLX (multi-purpose)
 
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Default Re: Emulsion for discharge printing

We've been using a water resistant dual cure emulsion by Ulano and really like it. For some reason I can't remember right now what it's called though (long day). I'll check tomorrow though.
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Ah ha! That's it..the 925WR. Thanks midwaste! I would have probably tried to remember it for like an hour if you hadn't mentioned that.
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Default Re: Emulsion for discharge printing

are there any emulsions that can be used with both discharge and plastisol inks?

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Default Re: Emulsion for discharge printing

RLX supposedly can, I have some, but have not tried it.
 
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Default Re: Emulsion for discharge printing

How about Murakami HV, is anyone familiar with this?

I ve heard great stuff about it, but on the forum it seems like most ppl prefer Ulano. Is anyone familiar with Murakami?
 
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