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Default Re: printing film positive

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Originally Posted by uberchupacabre
It sounds like I need to get both the special ink for my printer and the waterproof film which is twice as expensive as regular film.

Is this true or can I use regular non-waterproof film with the FastINK or regular ink with the waterproof film?
The sad thing about the commonly used term waterproof film is that it is not accurate, and was coined when DYE inkjet printers were the norm. In 2003, EPSON stopped making the Stylus 3000 and moved to pigment inks because they have a 99 year life when you print pictures of the family.

DYE inks bleed like crazy with you get any water on them! Nano porous coatings on pigment inkjet films don't let the ink bleed.

Water proof film can't actually be waterproof, or water based ink would be repelled! It should be called bleed resistant film, but it got named before pigment inks were mainstream. Pigment inks must use nano porous coatings because the particles in the ink needs to be able to go into the coating.
Inkjet Film for Screen Making Positives

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"waterproof" films and pigment based ink?

FastINK is DYE ink sold by usscreen.com and they recommend their 'waterproof' film, rather than film with a swellable coating used for DYE ink that is half the price of nano porous film.

Nano porous coating can absorb DYE or Pigment ink, much like a gravel driveway will absorb anything you pour on it.

The reason the EPSON 3000 was such a hit was because it used DYE ink and had a media setting for Back Light Film. Alas, that is not the case anymore, because all the modern EPSON printers use Pigment Ink.
EPSON Printers for making Screen Printing Positives
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