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thornnspear · November 20th, 2009

My order arrived today from Conde (ordered from them since they had done the imageclip videos and have a presence here on the forum) and did some quick transfers to try them out.

I used a Delta Olive green 100% cotton shirt, since I got a bunch of these for .50 at a warehouse sale.

First the Koncert (white) transfers (printed on a B&W HP 1006):

And the Imageclip Laser for Darks (the design was almost pure red [238/40/36], printed on an Oki C34400N)

Notes:

I need to try printing the Koncert T with the Oki, as the white wasn't quite as bright as expected (Although still good). Also, for the first time ever in my experience with imageclip, a piece of the transfer didn't transfer (one of the tips of the flames in the Koncert T pic). It's worth noting that these are warm peel, not hot peel like the original imageclip.

Looking at the color one, I think we'll have to play with colors to get used to what screen colors will print as what shade on the shirt a bit. However, on both the self-weeding worked very well.

I used the baking sheet method of fusing the transfer sheet, which still works with the new imageclip papers. (see this post by LNfortun - Problems with Imageclip)

I'll also give some feedback when I get these washed.

The paper works out to a per-transfer cost equal to what I can get from F&M for a 1 or 2-color transfer, but with smaller runs.

PcFlyer77 · November 20th, 2009

The designs look like they are pretty nice. How does it feel and how is the durability?

thornnspear · November 20th, 2009

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Originally Posted by PcFlyer77


	The designs look like they are pretty nice. How does it feel and how is the durability?

Feels like the original imageclip by comparison, rather soft hand for most lines - almost indistinguishable from the shirt around the flames, for instantce. I pressed them for an extra 5 seconds with a teflon sheet.

It's a softer hand than F&M's spot color transfers.

I'll let you know how it holds up in the wash.

PcFlyer77 · November 20th, 2009

Alright, I look forward to hearing the results. Do you think this paper could produce retail quality shirts?

thornnspear · November 20th, 2009

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Originally Posted by PcFlyer77


	Alright, I look forward to hearing the results. Do you think this paper could produce retail quality shirts?

I am absolutely using this for retail. The quality is on par with samples I have had made from Printfection and Spreadshirt, not to mention store-bought tees.

PcFlyer77 · November 20th, 2009

Hmmm. Thanks for the info. Is the quality of this better than an inkjet printer with dark paper? Also, which kind of laser printer would you recommend for printing on imageclip paper?

thornnspear · November 20th, 2009

I only have experience with the laser transfer paper and the Oki C3400. Others here would be better qualified to give comparison info.

thornnspear · November 20th, 2009

After 1 washing, both designs look the same! (cold/cold, inside out, regular detergent)

PcFlyer77 · November 20th, 2009

Nice! This spring, I am thinking about investing in some t-shirt printing equipment (either that or a new radio controlled airplane). If I do, I think I am going to go with a good laser printer and a heat press and see if I can sell some shirts.

mrdavid · November 22nd, 2009

Could you try washing in worm water to see what happens.

twistedmonkey · November 22nd, 2009

here are my first samples. I used okic3400 as well. definatky has to be played with colors and pressure etc. but the feel is great. its like i just bought it from a store. colors are nice. i am not sure if i made a mistake or problem with my press or the paper but some parts of the paper didnt transfer. i have a 3 months old press stalls maxx so i am not sure if the sample i got was bad. i have to get that checked buthere are the samples guys. just to let you know guys with my 3400 the whire looks like very light grays. not bright white i dont have enough samples to test in my regular mono laser . i even tried differnt pressures still comes out light grayish. Sorry for the designs its supoose to look shady and un even that how the font was. i should have used a better font for sample.

Lnfortun · November 22nd, 2009

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Originally Posted by twistedmonkey


	here are my first samples. I used okic3400 as well. definatky has to be played with colors and pressure etc. but the feel is great. its like i just bought it from a store. colors are nice. i am not sure if i made a mistake or problem with my press or the paper but some parts of the paper didnt transfer. i have a 3 months old press stalls maxx so i am not sure if the sample i got was bad. i have to get that checked buthere are the samples guys. just to let you know guys with my 3400 the whire looks like very light grays. not bright white i dont have enough samples to test in my regular mono laser . i even tried differnt pressures still comes out light grayish. Sorry for the designs its supoose to look shady and un even that how the font was. i should have used a better font for sample.

It must be due to some of the black toner from the print of the transfer sheet sticking to the opaque. Try changing the value of K and see what happens. Or lesser pressure and dwell.

Rodney · November 24th, 2009

Wow, that new paper looks really nice! Thanks for sharing the pics.

I got a newsletter from CoastalBusiness about the new papers and it looks like laser/CLC transfers are definitely improving!

thornnspear · November 25th, 2009

Update: My Oki C3400N does NOT like the Koncert T paper! I lost 2 sheets to it, toner would not fuse, even after running several sheets through to warm up.

Ran a regular imageclip design right after that, worked fine, and of course my Laser Dark Imageclip design worked fine. Something about the Koncert T paper just doesn't work in that printer for me.

Also, it is slightly annoying that the transfer sheets for the Koncert T's is somewhat smaller than the Laser-printing paper. It effectively makes the paper smaller than 8.5" x 11"

Hint hint - it would be nice if any of the vendors who have been playing with this stuff for the past few months could share some tips.

Lnfortun · November 25th, 2009

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Originally Posted by thornnspear


	Update: My Oki C3400N does NOT like the Koncert T paper! I lost 2 sheets to it, toner would not fuse, even after running several sheets through to warm up. Ran a regular imageclip design right after that, worked fine, and of course my Laser Dark Imageclip design worked fine. Something about the Koncert T paper just doesn't work in that printer for me. Also, it is slightly annoying that the transfer sheets for the Koncert T's is somewhat smaller than the Laser-printing paper. It effectively makes the paper smaller than 8.5" x 11" Hint hint - it would be nice if any of the vendors who have been playing with this stuff for the past few months could share some tips.

Try using Ultra Heavy media and Cardstock media type settings. The settings is the hottest settings for OKI printers.

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