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Old August 7th, 2009 Aug 7, 2009 7:23:07 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I'm trying inkjet papers for darks for the first time, besides the hassle of having to cut them out by hand, I love how they look. I'm having difficulty though trying to lay them on the garment and center them before they start to stick to the fabric though. Does anyone have any tips on this?

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I'm trying inkjet papers for darks for the first time, besides the hassle of having to cut them out by hand, I love how they look. I'm having difficulty though trying to lay them on the garment and center them before they start to stick to the fabric though. Does anyone have any tips on this?

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Lay a sheet of parchment paper where the transfer will be located. Lay the opaque on the parchment paper just slightly offset of the top of the parchemnet paper about a half inch that is bare and touching the shirt. Press your finger on it so that you can pull the parchmnet paper from under it without losing the placement. Or you can buy a material as mask. It is a sticky sheet that you put on top of the opaque so that you can locate and move the opaque around to align the transfer on the shirt. Press it with the opaque then peel cold.
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Thanks! Any suggestions on where to buy the mask material?
 
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Thanks! Any suggestions on where to buy the mask material?
Beacon Graphics. It is called Magic Mask. It comes in roll.
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Sorry to hijack your thread Don. Luis, I read your reply to my post re: mask, is magic mask so tacky that it would pull inkjet ink off during removal after pressing? After researching Magic Mask is for use with solvent inks. Anything to this? Thanks, Mike
 
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Sorry to hijack your thread Don. Luis, I read your reply to my post re: mask, is magic mask so tacky that it would pull inkjet ink off during removal after pressing? After researching Magic Mask is for use with solvent inks. Anything to this? Thanks, Mike
No! Unacceptable! Start your own thread!!!

Just kidding.

Actually, I would like to know the answer to your question also.

Also, is a piece of Magic Mask re-usable and how many times?
 
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Don, I spoke to someone at Beacon Graphics, he told me it would not remove inkjet ink from transfers. I didn't ask if it was reusable, I hadn't read this post yet. Mike
 
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Sorry guys I am late in answering your question. I had a lot of things going. Had to work on the kitchen floor and the bedroom floor. The bedroom was infested with termites and the kitchen floor was flooded when the sink overflowed. Had to replace both of them. I also ran out of opaque to press so I can show you what happens to Magic Mask after pressing.

Beacon Graphics was right. The ink does not transfer on the adhesive. It is hard to peel though because the adhesive is very sticky. I pressed two samples of contoured cut image using one Magic Mask twice. Both cases the ink did not transfer on the adhesive. It did not damge the second transfer. It left a mark where the image was. It pulled a lot of lint too. I used Roland's opaque. The same one where you found the comments that Magic Mask is for solvent ink in Beacon's website. I like that opaque. It is very thin, easy to weed and stretches too. It has nice soft feel unlike some that feels like raincoat. According to Beacon Magic Mask can be reused up to 10 to 11 times. Well maybe depending on how much lint it picks up.

Anyway I have two photos of the opaque and one for the Magic Mask. If you zoom on the Magic Mask you can see a lot of lint but ink is on it.
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Thanks for all the help Luis, I noticed the ink on the mask when I applied it. I had to use it for a rush job for a drum & bugle corp, just wanted to make sure the mask would perform. I did get a sticky residue from the Magic mask, that balled up on my finger when I rubbed the design. Mike
 
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Here are two links from a supporting vendor that show how to do many things.

Instructional videos on applying t-shirt iron on transfers with a heat press by Pro World


Iron-On Transfers and Inkjet Transfer Paper - Application Info

I am new to all this and use this site a lot.
 
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This seems like the best thread to ask this on since I have a similar question, sorry if it's not.

Maybe a stupid question, but I just started investigating transfer prints. Been using prinfection for some T's and they look just OK, but not enough saturation in the gold letters. Plus the final cost is major obstacle.

My target buyers are young teens and they seem to prefer black. Most shirts are just slogans with lettering. How would I print white lettering on a black T-shirt? My C84 Epson doesn't have a white ink of course, so would the process white look bright enough? Would I have to mask each letter?

I also have a design with gold lettering on a field of white stars. Wouldn't it be impossible to mask out for the white stars?

I also have a HP laser I can print on.

Should I just bite the bullet and buy a simple screen setup? Most are one color, sometimes two.

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This seems like the best thread to ask this on since I have a similar question, sorry if it's not.

Maybe a stupid question, but I just started investigating transfer prints. Been using prinfection for some T's and they look just OK, but not enough saturation in the gold letters. Plus the final cost is major obstacle.

My target buyers are young teens and they seem to prefer black. Most shirts are just slogans with lettering. How would I print white lettering on a black T-shirt? My C84 Epson doesn't have a white ink of course, so would the process white look bright enough? Would I have to mask each letter?

I also have a design with gold lettering on a field of white stars. Wouldn't it be impossible to mask out for the white stars?

I also have a HP laser I can print on.

Should I just bite the bullet and buy a simple screen setup? Most are one color, sometimes two.

Thanks!
Buying a screen set-up would certainly be one way to go, if that's something you have an interest in pursuing.

Plastisol transfers are another good option if you're talking about a quantity of say 25 or more.

If you're talking about one-offs, then vinyl is a great option for lettering.

I use my little CraftRobo for lettering. Yes folks, it's true that the little CraftRobo limits you to a 9" wide piece of vinyl, and of that about 7.5" is printable BUT you can use a long piece (like 18"), and rotate your text.

I purchased the CraftRobo about 3 years ago as an inexpensive alternative of getting into vinyl cutting. Now that I've had to close my shop, and I work from home, I like that it's small, and I can tuck it away when I'm not using it.
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