Hi all,
OK the results are in. The conclusion is good. The results are I think excellent.
Epson 1400 using factory Claria inks, JPSS paper for lights.
First press, looked great, good color depth and contrast. Wash Test, colors bled into shirt in some places, the darker the area the worse it was. Overall color faded very little to none. Conclusion, too much ink going on the paper causing excessive bleeding after washing.
Second press, changed the settings in the preferences from "photo best-photo glossy paper" to "text and image-plain paper bright white". The file printed out much quicker telling me immediately it was laying down less ink on the paper. Overall color still pretty darn nice, no bleeding, colors still looked very nice after washing. I even let it sit damp in the washer for a bit before taking it out and hanging it to dry. Conclusion, this works great after adjusting the amount of ink going on the paper. I would be very comfortable selling these shirts with this "recipe".
It looks like a MUST that you make wash tests on these materials before you sell the first shirt. If not you run a big risk of unhappy customers if the shirts have any bleeding/fading issues.
Hope this will help anybody using this system.
John
I have same configuration as you : epson 1400, claria ink and jpss. Yesterday i press a shirt 100% coton but the washing was a desaster...
Do you think that it 's so important to wait 24 hours before washing ?
Now i try an other configuration : matte paper, text/photo and gamma 2.2. The result on the paper is fabulous and after pressing, it's the same...fabulous.
Now i wait 24 hours and going to wash and see....
Here are pictures. The clock is not wash yet...
And you can see johnny before and after wash...
I just got a great deal on the 1400 but have not done anything with it. I think i am going to try it today to see the results.
Fred that watch looks great. make sure you post a pick after washing.
John thanks for posting your results. The shirts look great. i am going to try your settings as well.
The shirt just go out of the dryer and........great deception : about 50 % fading.
But, before going to the dryer, it looked better, so i'm going to make a test without hot dryer.
I don't understand what happened. Some member seems to say that claria ink is so good.
Ok it's good for me when i print and when i press but not to the wash. I have to learn more on that ink....
I'am a bit affraid to put pigment because the colors change when i press with epson d120 and if i plan to buy ht ink, i will need to play with icc colors. I don't want to make five print to get one good...
Not necessary to post this picture, it's the same results as photo of johnny above : too much fading to be sold to custumer.
Yes, i was very impressed by the shirt. I don't understand anything. I think that i press right (enough pressure, 190 degre celcius, 30 second, hot peel, strech, repress 8 second with parchment paper). not too saturate, text/photo to don't have too much ink...
I ask me if that ink can be wash at 40 ° celcius. It's a new printer so i hope that the ink that comes with is really claria wich is normaly water resistant.
For me, it's very important to find the solution because i have order for customers...
Hello all,
I'm still printing my designs to my JPSS paper as described earlier. Then I press @ 360 F @ 30 seconds with a pressure of 8-9. After pressing I stretch the shirt side to side as recommended by JPSS. I am still getting great results with minimum fading issues.
I have a lot shirts that still look pretty good after many washings. Wash using NO bleach in cold water. Wash and dry inside out. Air dry or low heat setting.
I can wash my shirts as soon as they have cooled down, no waiting.
Good luck, this "recipe" still works very well for me.
John
I meant to ask, are you using the JPSS paper? I tried several papers before finding out that the JPSS seems to work the best for white or light colored shirts. My paper has a light blue grid on the non printing side. The shirt with the watch looks very cool. I'm an old Swatch fan from way back.
Good luck!
John
I meant to ask, are you using the JPSS paper? I tried several papers before finding out that the JPSS seems to work the best for white or light colored shirts. My paper has a light blue grid on the non printing side. The shirt with the watch looks very cool. I'm an old Swatch fan from way back.
Good luck!
John
yes, it is jet pro. It's indicate on the backing.
The only difference for me is that i wash in hot water like every cutomer will do...40° celcius, no more. No bleach. but i estimate between 30 and 50 % fading with claria ink.
Here is some others pictures. Some shows that after the second wash, there is no more fading...great news (lol).
My shirts are 100 % coton and are not new. Maybe it's a difference but i don't think it could be the only problem.Ok, i have many fibrillation; It's normal with coton shirt. When i printed before and a cutomer asked me fine details in quadrichromie, i had fibrilation because i deposed less plastisol ink on the shirt.
Here it's the same because jet pro is very thin. i never have fibrilation with bad paper because it's plastic....and crack.
Wait and see, hooping that someone will tell me what i do wrong.
Tomorrow i will go with pigment on the epson and play with icc profile. I think that is the only solution to sell the shirt with condience.
oh sorry, not possible to upload more pictures.
The left is claria not wash but colors are exact. Center : two picture : the left one is washed one time and the right one, two times. And the right picture is the same but with pigment. You see that the grey turn yellow...it's not beautiful for the customers. And i know that after one wash, the colors will return correct....it's for going to be crazy!!!!!!!!!!
Hello all,
I'm still printing my designs to my JPSS paper as described earlier. Then I press @ 360 F @ 30 seconds with a pressure of 8-9. After pressing I stretch the shirt side to side as recommended by JPSS. I am still getting great results with minimum fading issues.
I have a lot shirts that still look pretty good after many washings. Wash using NO bleach in cold water. Wash and dry inside out. Air dry or low heat setting.
I can wash my shirts as soon as they have cooled down, no waiting.
Good luck, this "recipe" still works very well for me.
John
Thanks, John
i will try cold water...but i doubt that cutomers will respect this consign.....
Hello all,
I'm still printing my designs to my JPSS paper as described earlier. Then I press @ 360 F @ 30 seconds with a pressure of 8-9. After pressing I stretch the shirt side to side as recommended by JPSS. I am still getting great results with minimum fading issues.
I have a lot shirts that still look pretty good after many washings. Wash using NO bleach in cold water. Wash and dry inside out. Air dry or low heat setting.
I can wash my shirts as soon as they have cooled down, no waiting.
Good luck, this "recipe" still works very well for me.
John
Hello John,
It's my last post for today (it's midnight in belgium and i begin to be tired....)
I have made last test with cold water and your are absolutly right. No fading at all, no bleeding. Very good.
Here are the pictures.
I wonder two things :
1) does customers will wash in cold water ......
2) can i wash in warm water if it's after first cold wash...i will try tomorrow.
Wash Test Results Epson 1400/Claria/JPSS 
